[Debate] Is it right to pirate things unavailable in your own country's format?

[super-mega-hyper-sonic]

Hey there guys! I was just wondering about what you guys' point of view is on this.

Is it right/okay to pirate things not available in your region?

For example, Red vs Blue remastered is only on NTSC DVDs and I would have to buy a special DVD player just to play them so instead I am pirating. Is this right/okay?

Tell me what you guys think.

[Sarashi]

Hey there guys! I was just wondering about what you guys' point of view is on this.

Is it right/okay to pirate things not available in your region?

For example, Red vs Blue remastered is only on NTSC DVDs and I would have to buy a special DVD player just to play them so instead I am pirating. Is this right/okay?

Tell me what you guys think.

If you have a computer with a DVD drive, I think it will decode it fine.
EDIT: Doing a bit of reading into it, perhaps it turns out they are Region Locked.

[TwistedTinkerToy]

If you have a computer with a DVD drive, I think it will decode it fine.

I think you missed the point.

And this doesn't really need a thread. This could be posted in the "Is Pirating Stealing" thread.

[super-mega-hyper-sonic]

I think you missed the point.

I agree. I'm not talking about just DVDs.

[roza]

Hey there guys! I was just wondering about what you guys' point of view is on this.

Is it right/okay to pirate things not available in your region?

For example, Red vs Blue remastered is only on NTSC DVDs and I would have to buy a special DVD player just to play them so instead I am pirating. Is this right/okay?

Tell me what you guys think.

As long as you have VLC media player on your PC, you're fine

[Spiderpig24]

As long as you have VLC media player on your PC, you're fine

Not necessarily. If your disc drive can't physically read discs from other regions, software won't be able to either.

[roza]

Not necessarily. If your disc drive can't physically read discs from other regions, software won't be able to either.

VLC ignores regions, your Drive is open and sets to the first DVD you insert, you can change your Region up to 5 times

[amad2]

You could just buy the region locked object then pirate it. As long as you own it, it isn't against the law.

[HalfSwiss]

If you can't get it or use it in your own country, how else are you supposed to use it? I'd say it's ok for the most part on a morale standpoint, not legal of course (unless you're in Switzerland apparently). I mean, are you expected to move to another country just to watch something or listen to something? No.

[Hunter]

If you can't get it or use it in your own country, how else are you supposed to use it? I'd say it's ok for the most part on a morale standpoint, not legal of course (unless you're in Switzerland apparently). I mean, are you expected to move to another country just to watch something or listen to something? No.

This. Just support the creators the moment their crap become available.

[HalfSwiss]

To add I don't pirate things, I like to show my support to artists.

[Sarashi]

I agree. I'm not talking about just DVDs.

Then what else apart from DVDs?
As far as I am aware (And concerned for the matter), the only thing which is region locked is DVD films and perhaps a few games. I can understand console games, but be honest, who is going to mod their console to play a game which is from a different region.
And if you can bypass that, then what else?
Import: Games (Region free systems), Music, Collectables
Wait for release in your region: Films
Import and then use conversion methods: Films which are not blockbuster.

[Mariolee]

I don't think so. In my mind, this is akin to stealing cake from a party you weren't invited to. You don't have the right to view those videos outside of the standards set by the producers, therefore it is morally "wrong". Now, is it easier then giving up all of your money and your left arm for it to obtain it the right way? Yes. Would I want to do it? Yes. Would the producers even notice you took it? Probably not. But even under these circumstance, it is still wrong.

If you can't get it or use it in your own country, how else are you supposed to use it? I'd say it's ok for the most part on a morale standpoint, not legal of course (unless you're in Switzerland apparently). I mean, are you expected to move to another country just to watch something or listen to something? No.

He doesn't own the right to view those videos, thus he (from a morality standpoint with no other additional circumstances other than what has been provided in the OP) pirating those videos is wrong. It's not as if it's impossible to view them, he just has to jump through a ton of hoops, but if he is truly concerned about the moral indications he shouldn't do it.

To reiterate: just because you want something really badly and it is extremely difficult to get it, doesn't mean you can break the law unless this is a life-and-death situation, which I am presuming from the given circumstances it is not.

[roza]

I don't think so. In my mind, this is akin to stealing cake from a party you weren't invited to. You don't have the right to view those videos outside of the standards set by the producers, therefore it is morally "wrong". Now, is it easier then giving up all of your money and your left arm for it to obtain it the right way? Yes. Would I want to do it? Yes. Would the producers even notice you took it? Probably not. But even under these circumstance, it is still wrong.

Well take Rocksmith.... unless you have a PS3, you can't play it out of the US cause a band in England has the name trademarked, and there are no chances of us getting it, from what I gather, you're saying it's wrong for me to import the game on PS3, because my theoretical PS3 can run it but I'm not allowed to have it in this country...

[Sarashi]

Well take Rocksmith.... unless you have a PS3, you can't play it out of the US cause a band in England has the name trademarked, and there are no chances of us getting it, from what I gather, you're saying it's wrong for me to import the game on PS3, because my theoretical PS3 can run it but I'm not allowed to have it in this country...

Piracy will not help either. If you can't run a legit NTSC game on a legit PAL system, then what's the point of pirating said game for said system?

[roza]

Piracy will not help either. If you can't run a legit NTSC game on a legit PAL system, then what's the point of pirating said game for said system?

I'm just saying based on what Mariolee said is that if it's not in your country you can't have it. I used Rocksmith as an example because if you have a PS3 you can run an NSTC copy, same as I have VLC so I can run NSTC DVD's.

[Sarashi]

I'm just saying based on what Mariolee said is that if it's not in your country you can't have it. I used Rocksmith as an example because if you have a PS3 you can run an NSTC copy, same as I have VLC so I can run NSTC DVD's.

Well If you can run the game legally full stop then there's no need to pirate it.

[Mariolee]

Well take Rocksmith.... unless you have a PS3, you can't play it out of the US cause a band in England has the name trademarked, and there are no chances of us getting it, from what I gather, you're saying it's wrong for me to import the game on PS3, because my theoretical PS3 can run it but I'm not allowed to have it in this country...

You can't import? Anyway, the idea is yes, it's wrong morally, but what I'm saying is if morality is an actual factor in you deciding whether you want to pirate this or not.

Well If you can run the game legally full stop then there's no need to pirate it.

Boom.