The Religious Discussion Thread

[Unknown Flames]

Raised by parents with a certain religion that you don't believe in?

Interested in religion, but not religious.

[Throavium]

Interested in religion, but not religious.

Yeah, I am.

[Ienzo]

How does this works?

I explained this to some depth in the convo thread, but I'll go ahead and re-explain as I'm sure I missed something.

I am primarily Christian, which means I believe in God, Jesus, and the Ten Commandments. I believe the Bible is the sacred text. But I also believe many Zen Buddhist aspects. I believe that Buddha bestowed upon us the Eightfold Path and the Four Noble Truths. I believe in the Seven Chakras of the Human Body. I believe in living a simple life, and being aware of everything. I believe in Zazen (meditation). I believe in Karma, and I believe in the Eightfold Path and the Four Noble Truths. I believe that all life is precious, which means even eating meat is forbidden, however this aspect is sometimes ignored. There are some aspects that I don't believe, however, such as reincarnation, as they conflict with Christianity. If you have any more questions, ask away.

[Lestat_the_vampire]

I believe I have said it on here before, but once more cannot hurt, right?

Basically, I was raised in a Catholic household. Taken to church every Sunday, go through a Catholic school system (which in Canada is the same as a public school system, except they make you take religious studies). However, a couple of years ago, I watched as my best friend fell into a serious depression, to the point where he became suicidal (once talked about in the Depression thread).

Watching him go through that, I thought to myself "What kind of loving, care for all precious life God would cause a person to want to kill themselves?" I know that, according to religion, it's all free will, and that we make our own choices, etc. However, those thoughts persisted inside my brain, stewing until I realised that God cannot possibly want to cause someone this type of pain, and therefore, must not be the great being we claim to know. That is when I started identifying as an agnostic. I believe in the possibility of God, but not in the same sense that he exists in a religious aspect.

I completely lost all faith in church, as I felt that they preached things that I cannot agree with, especially things that pertain to society today. I've gotten into arguments with my Grandmother, based on these thoughts of mine. She still refuses to see me as an agnostic, and continues to pray that one day, I go back to the church, but I cannot see it happening any time soon.

[stevencho]

I believe I have said it on here before, but once more cannot hurt, right?

Basically, I was raised in a Catholic household. Taken to church every Sunday, go through a Catholic school system (which in Canada is the same as a public school system, except they make you take religious studies). However, a couple of years ago, I watched as my best friend fell into a serious depression, to the point where he became suicidal (once talked about in the Depression thread).

Watching him go through that, I thought to myself "What kind of loving, care for all precious life God would cause a person to want to kill themselves?" I know that, according to religion, it's all free will, and that we make our own choices, etc. However, those thoughts persisted inside my brain, stewing until I realised that God cannot possibly want to cause someone this type of pain, and therefore, must not be the great being we claim to know. That is when I started identifying as an agnostic. I believe in the possibility of God, but not in the same sense that he exists in a religious aspect.

I completely lost all faith in church, as I felt that they preached things that I cannot agree with, especially things that pertain to society today. I've gotten into arguments with my Grandmother, based on these thoughts of mine. She still refuses to see me as an agnostic, and continues to pray that one day, I go back to the church, but I cannot see it happening any time soon.

Yeah but how we are now is not the way God originally created us. We inherited all of our imperfections from Adam when he sinned. Had he not sinned and remained perfect, we would not have to deal with all the physical mental health problems we deal with today. But that's not God's fault, that's the fault of man thinking he could rule himself without God's help. But the bible does speak of when God will bring man back to perfection. Once he has fufilled his purpose of ridding the earth of wicked people. Don't Catholics teach that?

[stevencho]

I don't celebrate Easter :|

Nice. Me either. I don't see the point of it.

[stevencho]

Aren't you a Jehovah's Witness? YOU DON'T SEE THE POINT TO ANY HOLIDAY.

We actually just celebrated the "holiday" of Jesus' death this last Thursday. We just dont see the point of any holiday that really doesn't have anything to do with Jesus or God. Aka the holiday of bunny rabbits and candy. But I do love those robin eggs.

[Higashi89]

We actually just celebrated the "holiday" of Jesus' death this last Thursday. We just dont see the point of any holiday that really doesn't have anything to do with Jesus or God. Aka the holiday of bunny rabbits and candy. But I do love those robin eggs.

Jesus was forgotten, sadly. Because of the capitalism of buying lots of candies and chocolates, not to mention the big sales on christmas "for Jesus"

[stevencho]

Jesus was forgotten, sadly. Because of the capitalism of buying lots of candies and chocolates, not to mention the big sales on christmas "for Jesus"

Also the fact of what is the importance about celebrating his resurrection? He never asked us to. The only thing he told us to do was commemorate his death.

[Mariolee]

Also the fact of what is the importance about celebrating his resurrection? He never asked us to. The only thing he told us to do was commemorate his death.

Just because He never asked us to doesn't mean we shouldn't. I celebrate His resurrection because it symbolizes Him overcoming death, finally fulfilling prophecy as well as redeeming our sins. I also just noticed the last three avatars have sunglasses in them haha

[stevencho]

Just because He never asked us to doesn't mean we shouldn't. I celebrate His resurrection because it symbolizes Him overcoming death, finally fulfilling prophecy as well as redeeming our sins. I also just noticed the last three avatars have sunglasses in them haha

But isn't his death way more important? It was then he became the Savior and made his sacrifice paying back the sin of Adam and redeemed us all from death. His resurrection didn't signify anything :/

Also we should probably get back on topic. We have other threads more suitable for religious discussion. If you would like to continue discussing we should move there.

[Mariolee]

But isn't his death way more important? It was then he became the Savior and made his sacrifice paying back the sin of Adam and redeemed us all from death. His resurrection didn't signify anything :/

Also we should probably get back on topic. We have other threads more suitable for religious discussion. If you would like to continue discussing we should move there.

Yeah, I get that, but I disagree with his resurrection didn't signify anything. If He simply died (which we do celebrate with Good Friday), He would have redeemed us, but it's almost as if He was gone forever in order for the sacrifice to work as we have no evidence as to whether He went into Heaven or not. But with his resurrection, it signifies that He is so strong that He conquered the grave and it asserts His deity as a type of juxtaposition against His mortal side emphasized throughout the Gospel. His resurrection gives us a new hope.

Both His death and His resurrection are equally important, and I believe most people just combine them both in Easter, although officially it's designated for His resurrection.

[stevencho]

But with his resurrection, it signifies that He is so strong that He conquered the grave and it asserts His deity as a type of juxtaposition against His mortal side emphasized throughout the Gospel. His resurrection gives us a new hope.

But he didn't conquer the grave. He was resurrected by the Father back to heaven. What hope does his resurrection give?

I'm simply saying that Jesus told his followers to commemorate his death and didn't say anything about his resurrection. That's why we personally choose to only celebrate one.

[beardedwalrus]

I explained this to some depth in the convo thread, but I'll go ahead and re-explain as I'm sure I missed something.

I am primarily Christian, which means I believe in God, Jesus, and the Ten Commandments. I believe the Bible is the sacred text. But I also believe many Zen Buddhist aspects. I believe that Buddha bestowed upon us the Eightfold Path and the Four Noble Truths. I believe in the Seven Chakras of the Human Body. I believe in living a simple life, and being aware of everything. I believe in Zazen (meditation). I believe in Karma, and I believe in the Eightfold Path and the Four Noble Truths. I believe that all life is precious, which means even eating meat is forbidden, however this aspect is sometimes ignored. There are some aspects that I don't believe, however, such as reincarnation, as they conflict with Christianity. If you have any more questions, ask away.

Isn't that just basically picking and choosing which parts of each you like to fit you better?

[willo10]

I'm just gonna leave this here. This is why I'm not religious, I don't want to turn into one of these people.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

[Unknown Flames]

I'm just gonna leave this here. This is why I'm not religious, I don't want to turn into one of these people.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

You realize that's a joke right?

[roza]

This can be applied to any religious belief in context

[willo10]

You realize that's a joke right?

Yeah, but unfortunately there are people like that out there. I don't mind overly religious people, I just don't like ignorant religious people, like they're making fun of.

[stevencho]

I'm just gonna leave this here. This is why I'm not religious, I don't want to turn into one of these people.
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/

Thats a troll site. An excellent and funny one at that. But don't take anything there too seriously.

[willo10]

Thats a troll site. An excellent and funny one at that. But don't take anything there too seriously.

Oh, I don't any more, but I'm almost certain that there are people like that somewhere. It's sad, but most likely true.