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Thread: The Official "Devil May Cry: Devil May Cry" Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
    To be fair, Yakuza is nowhere NEAR as popular as Devil May Cry, nor does it have a lead character as iconic as Dante. Dante is one of the badassest badasses of modern gaming. I don't even know the guy from Yakuza's name.
    Nice choice of video there.

    I still don't know what to think of this whole thing, but I will give Capcom the benefit of the doubt and hope they don't screw things up too badly. After all, this is just one teaser trailer, and for all we know, all of that was just proof of concept.

    I've talked with a few people here and there, most of them are enraged, some are a little more open about the change. I'm on the fence until I see what he can really do.

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    It could have actually been worse than this. Apparently Ninja Theory had concepts of Dante shirtless with just suspenders.

    Think about that for a while.


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    Heh, the possibility of it being worse does not give me a reason to like this new Dante.

    I think he sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentroavium View Post
    Heh, the possibility of it being worse does not give me a reason to like this new Dante.

    I think he sucks.
    I'm not saying you should like this one because he doesn't have suspenders. I'm just amazed that it could actually be worse.


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    I'm gonna try and treat this as if it were a new game. But even then I don't like the new Dante. I don't want to play as an emo druggie...

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    Ninja Theory doesn't think the old badass Dante is cool anymore. Apparently they think this new douche is.

    I didn't like Ninja Theory before, but this is ridiculous. And I've been hearing that DMC Dante is modeled after the game's director.


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    Ninja Theory doesn't have enough credibilty to touch anything like DMC, Heavenly Sword and Kung Fu Chaos don't do the company justice.

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    LMFAO @ NINJA THEORY

    OLD DANTE WOULD GET BEAT UP IN A BAR, HAVE THEY NOT PLAYED DEVIL MAY CRY 3

    Old Dante was the absolute epitome of cool. He looked like a baller, he was a smooth-talker, he was witty and sometimes funny, he had badass moves and weapons, and he was cocky but never annoying. He's the perfect dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
    Old Dante was the absolute epitome of cool. He looked like a baller, he was a smooth-talker, he was witty and sometimes funny, he had badass moves and weapons, and he was cocky but never annoying. He's the perfect dude.
    This.

    Even if they substituted this new guy with Nero, that would still be better.

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    You should play the game first! Not to mention it is no solution to call everything you don't like "gay" or "emo". That's immature par excellence!

    • Look at "the new" Dante again. He got dark hair, but white highlights. The higlights seem to increase during the trailer -> transformation into the white-haired guy we know?
    • Dantes natural haircolor seems to be black anyways. Look at his eyebrows and stubble
    • Could be a very young Dante - before DMC3
    • The clothing is somewhat similar to Neros, they just switched the colors. Nero: black hoodie, red coat. New Dante: red hoodie, black coat
    • James Bond looked different in a lot of films too and even in Videogames you can see this. Link for example had brown hair, it got blonde with Ocarina of Time. Snake got a beard and turned old... and Raiden called himself "Snake" in the beginning of MGS2
    • JIMO it's way better as having another copycat like nero. C'mon, that was real lame!
    • Talking about James Bond and Snake - maybe Dante is some kind of Alias?

    I could continue with this! Fact is: We know nothing about the project, so we should wait and see...

    Quote Originally Posted by sd1833 View Post
    And I've been hearing that DMC Dante is modeled after the game's director.
    Well, I don't believe that. Their hairs are similar (but not identical), but to me that's either pure coincidence, or some joke. Besides: Why do you complain about the designer having someting in common with his creation? Pikmin was made 'cause Miyamoto likes gardening. Link was lefty, because Miyamoto is one too. Hideo Kojima put himself into Peace Walker... Why do you complain about it now? Because it's DMC? That's weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasa-bi View Post
    Why do you complain about the designer having someting in common with his creation?
    He wasn't complaining, he was simply stating that that's what he'd heard.

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    I liked nero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
    He wasn't complaining, he was simply stating that that's what he'd heard.
    That YOU was the one with the meaning of more than one people! After all a lot of people start that stupid argument, just because the designers hair is similar - far from being identical!

    So please don't try to make something up again!
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    What the fuck are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasa-bi View Post
    • James Bond looked different in a lot of films too and even in Videogames you can see this. Link for example had brown hair, it got blonde with Ocarina of Time. Snake got a beard and turned old... and Raiden called himself "Snake" in the beginning of MGS2
    • Talking about James Bond and Snake - maybe Dante is some kind of Alias?
    • A bit of scruff makes any man look better. Worked for Snake and worked for Dante in DMC4. Degenerating someone to a junkie does not have the same effect. And we still hate Raiden for doing that.
    • Yes, because Dante is an operative for a secret government agency.

    Anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasa-bi View Post

    • Link for example had brown hair, it got blonde with Ocarina of Time.
    Well.. That was a different person entirely.

    (Yes. I'm contributing alot to this discussion)
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    I've come to the conclusion that patrick has no eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasa-bi View Post
    You should play the game first! Not to mention it is no solution to call everything you don't like "gay" or "emo". That's immature par excellence!

    • Look at "the new" Dante again. He got dark hair, but white highlights. The higlights seem to increase during the trailer -> transformation into the white-haired guy we know?
    • Dantes natural haircolor seems to be black anyways. Look at his eyebrows and stubble
    • Could be a very young Dante - before DMC3
    • The clothing is somewhat similar to Neros, they just switched the colors. Nero: black hoodie, red coat. New Dante: red hoodie, black coat
    • James Bond looked different in a lot of films too and even in Videogames you can see this. Link for example had brown hair, it got blonde with Ocarina of Time. Snake got a beard and turned old... and Raiden called himself "Snake" in the beginning of MGS2
    • JIMO it's way better as having another copycat like nero. C'mon, that was real lame!
    • Talking about James Bond and Snake - maybe Dante is some kind of Alias?

    I could continue with this! Fact is: We know nothing about the project, so we should wait and see...



    Well, I don't believe that. Their hairs are similar (but not identical), but to me that's either pure coincidence, or some joke. Besides: Why do you complain about the designer having someting in common with his creation? Pikmin was made 'cause Miyamoto likes gardening. Link was lefty, because Miyamoto is one too. Hideo Kojima put himself into Peace Walker... Why do you complain about it now? Because it's DMC? That's weak.
    Dante was about 19 in Devil May Cry 3, this new guy doesn't look younger, he looks a bit older and completely different.

    I disagree.

    Your points are off center, James Bond is in a completely different spectrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasa-bi View Post
    You should play the game first! Not to mention it is no solution to call everything you don't like "gay" or "emo". That's immature par excellence!

    • Look at "the new" Dante again. He got dark hair, but white highlights. The higlights seem to increase during the trailer -> transformation into the white-haired guy we know?
    • Dantes natural haircolor seems to be black anyways. Look at his eyebrows and stubble
    • Could be a very young Dante - before DMC3
    • The clothing is somewhat similar to Neros, they just switched the colors. Nero: black hoodie, red coat. New Dante: red hoodie, black coat
    • James Bond looked different in a lot of films too and even in Videogames you can see this. Link for example had brown hair, it got blonde with Ocarina of Time. Snake got a beard and turned old... and Raiden called himself "Snake" in the beginning of MGS2
    • JIMO it's way better as having another copycat like nero. C'mon, that was real lame!
    • Talking about James Bond and Snake - maybe Dante is some kind of Alias?

    I could continue with this! Fact is: We know nothing about the project, so we should wait and see...
    First off, labeling new Dante as gay or emo doesn't work for me personally either, for different reasoning. I think those labels don't even fit him. Now, calling him a drug addict, that's a different story.

    As for my take on this. I'm totally on the fence now that I've had time to think on this. But the comparisons you've made hold little water for me.

    Raiden: Just what is your point there? There were and are many who cry foul about his role as the hero of MGS 2. Basically replacing Snake angered many fans. They had to make him a crazy badass cyber ninja for people to like him lol.

    Snake: He has physically changed because he aged. That is explained, and it makes sense. He's still the same man, just older.

    James Bond: As mentioned, that is a completely different spectrum.
    Besides, as an outsider to the Bond films such as myself, I do find that a bit annoying. Same thing for the Batman films, except the outsider part.

    With Link, the hair color isn't an issue to many because it's not a drastic change. Now, if he had blue hair covering one eye and now wore a long green coat instead of his trademark tunic, that would have caused some upset.

    But there are valid things that make me mad about this project. Capcom USA went to Ninja Theory and basically told them to design something that they knew would upset longtime fans.

    Also, regarding Dante's hair color, it's naturally white. It's common in Japanese character design to have outlandish hair color and more natural colored eyebrows and/or facial hair. However, I do feel the new game will end up with him having his white hair, as you suggested.

    My biggest fear is one I will have to wait and see about, and the biggest reason I can't get behind it just yet. The gameplay. All I know of Ninja Theory is Heavenly Sword, a somewhat inferior clone (in my opinion) of God of War. I don't see how they will be capable of creating a game with the speed and grace of Devil May Cry. His "sword" in the teaser confused the hell out of me.

    I also don't like the fact that he smokes like a chimney. It just seems to be saying smoking is cool. But that's a personal issue I have with it.

    However, I am on the fence about this, as I mentioned. Hopefully, this will grow into something the fans and newcomers alike can enjoy. I'm just not holding my breath on that.

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    what you (almost everyone) don't get: There's a shitload of options WHY he looks like that! It can be a young Dante, it can even be possible "Dante" is just some kind of alias (if you're not comfortable with 007 take XXX or someting similar), etc.

    Neiter YOU nor me know anything about the game, so why can't the "Haterz" not just wait till we get more information.

    Raiden: Just what is your point there? There were and are many who cry foul about his role as the hero of MGS 2. Basically replacing Snake angered many fans. They had to make him a crazy badass cyber ninja for people to like him lol.
    And what's your point here? I bet a lot of people will like this Dante more if they see him doing a lot of blood-and-gore-action.

    Snake: He has physically changed because he aged. That is explained, and it makes sense. He's still the same man, just older.
    THIS Dante could be the same too. He could be younger, he could have changed his hair (he already did! his hair is different in dmc 3 and 4), etc.. Do you know for sure? I don't... and you don't either!

    James Bond: As mentioned, that is a completely different spectrum.
    Besides, as an outsider to the Bond films such as myself, I do find that a bit annoying. Same thing for the Batman films, except the outsider part.
    Yes, it can be annoying, but it could be true. Again: Do you know the plot of the game?

    With Link, the hair color isn't an issue to many because it's not a drastic change. Now, if he had blue hair covering one eye and now wore a long green coat instead of his trademark tunic, that would have caused some upset.
    But it is at DmC here! The first drastic change you notice is his hair and that's what a lot of people complain about. Almost 90% of the comments are "at least give him white hair". And Dante did change his clothing in DMC2 already without causing drama! Even Jill Valentines new look didn't cause that drama. And that sure was drastic!!!



    See? It's more black on the front! He even got a diffrent look in DMC3 - almost half naked. This did not cause a new worldwar.

    As for the smoking... Chris Redfield started to eat anabolica 24/7 and it didn't cause that much of a ruckus. So it seems it cool to use drugs and such crap if you are a Capcom-Charakter.
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    Wasa-bi. You win the argument.I am saying this to make him leave, and if he is reading this then, let me tell you, Dante's clothes change in each game.

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