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EggBoy13
03-22-2008, 07:13 AM
you can c the shots here (this looks like it could be prtty good :D )
http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/437/
thoughts?
oh sorry i ment UNLEASHED
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 07:15 AM
My personal favorite.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/Aisha_Clan_Clan_Prower/Sonic%20Unleashed/global_preso/OPB053editcur0060.jpg
VGMaster
03-22-2008, 07:16 AM
Sorry, but this (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/Aisha_Clan_Clan_Prower/Sonic%20Unleashed/global_preso/OPB053editcur0060.jpg) makes me a bit worried.
EDIT: nm, TTT posted the pic. Game looks good i guess.
GuitarMan
03-22-2008, 07:18 AM
My personal favorite.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/Aisha_Clan_Clan_Prower/Sonic%20Unleashed/global_preso/OPB053editcur0060.jpg
some one should render that pic.
I'd buy the game in a heartbeat.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 07:19 AM
When I first saw the thread, I was like "oh sweet, this is gonna rock" but once I saw that screen, I just lost every ounce of hope that this could possibly be the true successor to Sonic Adventure 2.
EDIT: there's a possibility this could be the sequel to Sonic at the Secret Rings, but the graphics look like it's on 360/PS3. It's only been a day and it's already guaranteed to be terrible.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 07:20 AM
Well... ever since Sonic 06, Sonic has been going downhill, and personally, I tihkn that Sega needs to come up with something new (That isn't extremely cheesey) for a Sonic game. I know this game will be a disappointment.
Please be for Wii!!!
This game will suck on 360 and PS3 xD.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 07:24 AM
Please be for Wii!!!
This game will suck on 360 and PS3 xD.
If it's for Wii, then I probably won't even rent it, because, let me tell you, I rented Secret Rings, and it was one of the worst games I've ever played.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 07:47 AM
Sonic and the Secret Rings was just as bad as 06. Why can't they make a decent home console game, but they can make a fantastic handheld one?
mousepad
03-22-2008, 07:49 AM
the Only screenshot I liked was the super sonic one in electricity, and it was kinda cruddy.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 07:58 AM
This may be good, the graphics looks very nice. It may be a good comeback for sonic because his games have sucked since Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut.
Ninty
03-22-2008, 08:02 AM
Well, the good thing is, is it cant be worse than Sonic 06... *shudder*
CAN IT !?!??!
graphics are nice...
VGMaster
03-22-2008, 08:04 AM
This may be good, the graphics looks very nice. It may be a good comeback for sonic because his games have sucked since Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut.
Sonic Adventure 2 was great! What are you talking about?
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:08 AM
I agree. Sonic Adventure 2 was an amazing game, best Sonic game ever IMO. The Sonic Advance trilogy and the Sonic Rush games were pretty good aswell. Don't count on this one being good at all. They said Sonic 06 was going to reinvent the series but it turned out to be the worst one yet.
I agree. Sonic Adventure 2 was an amazing game, best Sonic game ever IMO. The Sonic Advance trilogy and the Sonic Rush games were pretty good aswell. Don't count on this one being good at all. They said Sonic 06 was going to reinvent the series but it turned out to be the worst one yet.
QFT!!!!!
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VGMaster
03-22-2008, 08:11 AM
QFT!!!!!
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What does that mean?
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 08:12 AM
I was talking about Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut which is a crappy port of Sonic Adventure.
Shadow the Hedgehog
03-22-2008, 08:12 AM
That looks so bad ass
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 08:13 AM
I agree. Sonic Adventure 2 was an amazing game, best Sonic game ever IMO. The Sonic Advance trilogy and the Sonic Rush games were pretty good aswell. Don't count on this one being good at all. They said Sonic 06 was going to reinvent the series but it turned out to be the worst one yet.
Well, it kinda did reivent the series. :P
It's kind of ironic, Sonic Genesis was in honor of Sonic's 15th anniversary, and it sucked, and sonic 06 was in honor of Sonic 20th anniversary, or something like that, and it was horrible.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:16 AM
no, Sonic 06 was the 15th. Sonic is 17 years old. (he was made in 1991) I don't think Sonic Genesis was the official 15th anniversary, but it was terrible anyways. Sonic Adventure DX wasn't that bad. I know you were talking about that but SA2B came out after.
Ninty
03-22-2008, 08:19 AM
QFT! means Quoted for truth... (i think)
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 08:19 AM
SA2B was a great game and the good sonic game was Sonic Heros IMO.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:21 AM
Sonic Heroes was OK. I have the PS2 version and it's not really that great. It was better than Sonic 06 though.
Oh, and for the record, Shadow the Hedgehog was NOT a bad game. Everyone said it was terrible but it wasn't as bad as the reviews said. They must've just played the PS2 version because that sucked. I have the Gamecube version and it's good.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 08:25 AM
I play both versions and there bad. The graphics are bad and the controls are bad.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 08:27 AM
no, Sonic 06 was the 15th. Sonic is 17 years old. (he was made in 1991) I don't think Sonic Genesis was the official 15th anniversary, but it was terrible anyways. Sonic Adventure DX wasn't that bad. I know you were talking about that but SA2B came out after.
I don't keep track of Sonic stuff, considering Sonic sucks such hard...
Bricks.
Shadow the Hedgehog
03-22-2008, 08:27 AM
I play both versions and there bad. The graphics are bad and the controls are bad.
I'd say its mediocre. Skating around all the time=bad controls >.<
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:29 AM
The controls are a little clunky but at least it's playable. The only problem with the controls are that Shadow moves too fast and when you are spin dashing. If you give it a chance it's not a bad game at all. It has a great story and the weapons are good. I give it a 7/10.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 08:31 AM
The controls are a little clunky but at least it's playable. The only problem with the controls are that Shadow moves too fast and when you are spin dashing. If you give it a chance it's not a bad game at all. It has a great story and the weapons are good. I give it a 7/10.
I'd rent it, but I can't find it at my local BlockBuster.
mousepad
03-22-2008, 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by Vengeance View Post
no, Sonic 06 was the 15th. Sonic is 17 years old. (he was made in 1991) I don't think Sonic Genesis was the official 15th anniversary, but it was terrible anyways. Sonic Adventure DX wasn't that bad. I know you were talking about that but SA2B came out after.
actually vengeance, SA2b came out before SADX
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:40 AM
oh... well... whatever. I remember SA2B came out in 2001 because it was Sonic's 10th anniversary.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 08:46 AM
SA2B came out a year later after SA2.
Ninty
03-22-2008, 08:48 AM
Ill stick to Sonic Rush and Sonic advance now... mainly handheld games ill buy... Rivals was good too. but sonic Rush was the best, and Sonic Chronicles looks tight.
EggBoy13
03-22-2008, 08:51 AM
i REALY REALY hope this is like a bad ass sonic adventure 3 kind of game
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:52 AM
ok, ok, sheesh. i got it wrong.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 08:56 AM
Sonic Chronicles, I'll admit, does look pretty good, but it will probably be a letdown. Sega should just move on.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 08:57 AM
it's made by Bioware. Even if they made a My Little Pony RTS, it would kick ass.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 08:58 AM
it's made by Bioware. Even if they made a My Little Pony RTS, it would kick ass.
Really? Well, in that case, I'll check it out once it's out.
P.S. Does anyone else think that Sonic is a sterotype "Cool guy" voice? I think Sega thinks he's awesome.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 09:00 AM
On sonicstadium.org said the pictures can be a Hoax. I don't why the site said that because The pictures look amazing and i don't how they can be a hoax.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 09:04 AM
I have a bad feeling it might be an April Fools joke... but it looks too be real to be one. Most of the past April Fools jokes have been obvious like that Mushroom Kingdom Hearts one we had last year and that Lego Halo one.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 09:05 AM
I have a bad feeling it might be an April Fools joke... but it looks too be real to be one. Most of the past April Fools jokes have been obvious like that Mushroom Kingdom Hearts one we had last year and that Lego Halo one.
Could you link to those? I never saw them.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 09:06 AM
It looks very real, there no way it can be a hoax.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 09:10 AM
MKH: http://www.vgboxart.com/view/6652/mushroom.kingdom.hearts/?replies=16
sorry, the original link doesn't work anymore. but it had that picture with some information about the "game". it was obviously false because the name sounds ridiculous and they used artwork of Sora and Mickey from KH2.
Lego Halo:
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/03/01/lego-halo-in-the-works-at-bungie/
self explanatory.
Ninty
03-22-2008, 09:36 AM
No one can do pictures like that apart from a videogames company...
and im sure SEGA wouldnt waste their time just making new pictures and sttuff when they could be doing better things.
PuzzleMan1337
03-22-2008, 01:06 PM
Oh god no.
Unless its good.
Then it wouldnt be Sonic.
This is confusing.
mchapra
03-22-2008, 01:54 PM
um... guys lets give the blue on life support hedghog another chance
VGMaster
03-22-2008, 01:56 PM
and im sure SEGA wouldnt waste their time just making new pictures and sttuff when they could be doing better things.
Yeah like making Silver the Hedgehog! [/sarcasm] You know it's coming. :rolleyes:
MARKER
03-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Yeah... Sega Patented the name recently...
Here's some more pics at espiokaos forum:
http://espiokaosmessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1963/t/Sonic-Unleashed.html?page=1
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 02:45 PM
Maybe the game is called Sonic the Hedgehog 2 aka Sonic 2008.
IceFox
03-22-2008, 02:59 PM
To the guy who said Secret Rings was just as bad as Sonic 06....are you serious?
Sonic 06 is one of the worst games this generation. Secret Rings was really good, frusturating (could have used a little more polish) but the best console Sonic game since the original Sonic Adventure 2 was released on the DC (not that I've got anything wrong with Battle or DX). It reminded me off the old side scrollers - as a matter of fact, I think it's possible the best example of a side scrolling plattformer being made 3D.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 03:04 PM
that was me. are YOU stoned? Secret Rings was SHIT. the controls sucked. Sonic was constantly moving and you had to hammer down the 1 Button to get him to stop, and reversing him was no better. The story and voice acting sucked ass as usual, the party games are boring and frustrating and the level design is HORRID. I couldnt even get past the tutorial without swearing at the television. Best game since Adventure 2? BAH! hardly! and what was wrong with the Gamecube version? That was even better than the original. If you think it's the best example of a sidescroller being made 3D, that must mean you think it's better than Super Mario 64. And to think that, you must be insane.
Ratchetcomand
03-22-2008, 03:05 PM
Secret Rings was bad because it was too frusturating. Sonic 06 was almost as bad as Spyro: Enter the Dragon Fly.
IceFox
03-22-2008, 03:07 PM
that was me. are YOU stoned? Secret Rings was SHIT. the controls sucked. Sonic was constantly moving and you had to hammer down the 1 Button to get him to stop, and reversing him was no better. The story and voice acting sucked ass as usual, the party games are boring and frustrating and the level design is HORRID. I couldnt even get past the tutorial without swearing at the television. Best game since Adventure 2? BAH! hardly! and what was wrong with the Gamecube version? That was even better than the original. If you think it's the best example of a sidescroller being made 3D, that must mean you think it's better than Super Mario 64. And to think that, you must be insane.
I had no issues with the controls, so I am thinking that must be you.
Notice how I said sidescroller being made 3D. Mario 64 didn't make a side scroller 3D, it took the platforming element. Secret Rings attempted to make a side scroller and flip it into 3 dimensions, and it suceeded.
The voice acting sucks in all the Sonic games, every single one since the first use of voice overs.
The tutorial was easy once you got used to it, the controls were different than other games and it takes a lot of practice to master, but its fun. It's quick fast paced action, which is what Sonic is about.
Also, yes, I thought the DC version was better. I mean, they were both excellent, I think it's just the DC version holds more nostalgia for me.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 03:09 PM
it seems like you didnt even play the game. I am struggling to believe you even survived that tutorial without running into the fucking godawful controls. It would've been so much easier if you could use the Nunchuk, but NOOO.... this game BLOWS. the end.
IceFox
03-22-2008, 03:10 PM
it seems like you didnt even play the game. I am struggling to believe you even survived that tutorial without running into the fucking godawful controls. It would've been so much easier if you could use the Nunchuk, but NOOO.... this game BLOWS. the end.
Good for you. Now if you excuse me, I am going to go pop it in for some replay because I have fun with it.
Vengeance
03-22-2008, 03:13 PM
you have fun playing with garbage? this shit makes the Wii look bad. Why waste your time on a piece of crap like this when you can be having so much more fun with Galaxy or Brawl.
IceFox
03-22-2008, 03:18 PM
you have fun playing with garbage? this shit makes the Wii look bad. Why waste your time on a piece of crap like this when you can be having so much more fun with Galaxy or Brawl.
*sigh*
You know what? I will go have fun playing with garbage.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-22-2008, 03:40 PM
that was me. are YOU stoned? Secret Rings was SHIT. the controls sucked. Sonic was constantly moving and you had to hammer down the 1 Button to get him to stop, and reversing him was no better. The story and voice acting sucked ass as usual, the party games are boring and frustrating and the level design is HORRID. I couldnt even get past the tutorial without swearing at the television. Best game since Adventure 2? BAH! hardly! and what was wrong with the Gamecube version? That was even better than the original. If you think it's the best example of a sidescroller being made 3D, that must mean you think it's better than Super Mario 64. And to think that, you must be insane.
I agree 100%. It was seriously like a flash game you would find online, and not a very good one either. All you do is move Sonic left and right, I mean, seriously. The voice acting sounded like shit, and the controls didn't respond properly.
it seems like you didnt even play the game. I am struggling to believe you even survived that tutorial without running into the fucking godawful controls. It would've been so much easier if you could use the Nunchuk, but NOOO.... this game BLOWS. the end.
Right on! The controls were just a sad excuse to make use of the Wii Remote. They could ATLEAST have a control setting, since the Nunchuck doesn't do anything in the game. When I rented this game, I was thinking "This game might restore my faith in Sonic", but then, the message came up saying that I had to remove the Nunchuck, and I was like, shit.
Shadow the Hedgehog
03-22-2008, 05:23 PM
Yeah... Sega Patented the name recently...
Here's some more pics at espiokaos forum:
http://espiokaosmessageboard.yuku.com/topic/1963/t/Sonic-Unleashed.html?page=1
Is it just me, or is that whole seganerds site down?
Oh, and check this out: http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/438/
Sonic's a werewolf.......
More screens: http://sega-portal.de/blog/279/erste-sonic-unleashed-screens/#more-279
definitely gonna be for Wii
http://sega-portal.de/screenshots/1299.jpg O NOES!
PuzzleMan1337
03-22-2008, 06:23 PM
Is it just me, or is that whole seganerds site down?
Oh, and check this out: http://www.sonicstadium.org/sonicnews/438/
Sonic's a werewolf.......
More screens: http://sega-portal.de/blog/279/erste-sonic-unleashed-screens/#more-279
definitely gonna be for Wii
http://sega-portal.de/screenshots/1299.jpg O NOES!
Wow. Im totaly speachless.
PunisherAB
03-22-2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.seganerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/su1.jpg
http://forums.exophase.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5570&d=1206229744
http://forums.exophase.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5603&d=1206229547
http://forums.exophase.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5576&d=1206229744
http://forums.exophase.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5574&d=1206229744
http://forums.exophase.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5562&d=1206229819
With these screenshots...I give hope for it.....
and since it saids SaTSR gameplay (hopefully improved) mix with 2.5D gameplay... or all 2.5D gameplay which is what it lookslike...I give more new hope for this :)
Shadow the Hedgehog
03-22-2008, 07:13 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/segaon/2353536036/
149 screenshots O.o
What does that mean?
Quoted for truth.
MKH: http://www.vgboxart.com/view/6652/mushroom.kingdom.hearts/?replies=16
sorry, the original link doesn't work anymore. but it had that picture with some information about the "game". it was obviously false because the name sounds ridiculous and they used artwork of Sora and Mickey from KH2.
OMG I remember that xD.
Got a kick outta' that one.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-22-2008, 10:21 PM
SEGA should have stopped making Sonic games after the Genesis died. Although the Dark Brotherhood RPG looks tight; it is BioWare, after all.
/thread
EggBoy13
03-23-2008, 07:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjxnhXs7Mqs
real video! o man this iz gonna be a good game :D
Vengeance
03-23-2008, 07:25 AM
it looks like Sonic Rush in 3D.
EggBoy13
03-23-2008, 07:31 AM
it looks like Sonic Rush in 3D.
i know :D
(or maybe like NEW sonic the hedgehog :p)
PuzzleMan1337
03-23-2008, 07:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjxnhXs7Mqs
real video! o man this iz gonna be a good game :D
2 steps forward already!
2-D.5 Platforming and NO CHESSEY ROCK MUSIC! WOOT!
PunisherAB
03-23-2008, 08:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjxnhXs7Mqs
real video! o man this iz gonna be a good game :D
HOLY SHIT!!!! :eek: ...Sega finally, finally answered my prayers...with a fully 2.5D Sonic game! And the looks of it...it will be on Xbox or PS3.
Nice!:cool:
Just don't F@çk this up Sega.:mad:
Vengeance
03-23-2008, 08:48 AM
yeah, this better not suck. Sonic Rush games were awesome. If this succeeds Sonic will be back on track again.
but then again... would you consider NiGHTS JoD a 2.5D game? (not when you're playing as those dumb kids, the actual Nights gameplay) That didn't work too well... but it was the Wii controls. With normal console controls, I'm thinking this could be successful.
HalfSwiss
03-23-2008, 06:46 PM
http://forums.exophase.com/showthread.php?t=6266
Looks awesome, btw.
master_general
03-23-2008, 07:06 PM
is there a logo yet?
HalfSwiss
03-23-2008, 07:09 PM
is there a logo yet?
Exactly what I'm looking for. =/
StinkyNelkin
03-23-2008, 09:22 PM
Hmm...with brawl, the upcoming sonic rpg, and this....SONIC MIGHT NOT SUCK ANYMORE!!! YAY!!
master_general
03-23-2008, 09:40 PM
OH NOES!!!!
after watching videos on youtube, 1 said it was for the Wii
the graphics are great for the Wii
but the controls?
unless they do the gamecube usable thing, it might be another secret rings
Vengeance
03-24-2008, 04:46 AM
oh fucking hell, not another Sonic clone... this is getting annoying. I can just see a scene with Amy trying to hug this "sonic clone" thinking it's Sonic like she did to Silver. -_-
Ratchetcomand
03-24-2008, 09:00 AM
The video was ok, sonic 06 had the same type of gameplay video. I'm not expecting that much on this game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRc13CAqtMQ&feature=related
HalfSwiss
03-24-2008, 09:32 AM
OH NOES!!!!
after watching videos on youtube, 1 said it was for the Wii
the graphics are great for the Wii
but the controls?
unless they do the gamecube usable thing, it might be another secret rings
Nah, it's only 360 and PS3. Those awesome graphics could never be on the Wii...
KoopaDasher
03-24-2008, 09:46 AM
Nah, it's only 360 and PS3. Those awesome graphics could never be on the Wii...
Agreed. There's no way it will be on Wii in that state. We might get a crappy port with terrible graphics and Wii controls where you tilt the remote to go sideways, but that's about it.
TwistedTinkerToy
03-24-2008, 09:52 AM
I don't get it, how can you still look forward to a Sonic game after all of these crappy ones like Sonic 06?
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 10:29 AM
Yeah, I know there's plenty of these, but here is the "Official" thread. Discuss everything about SU here.
After seeing the video and the Sonic Rush-style gameplay, I'm thinking this game could be good. They are (hopefully) re-inventing the series, so it would kinda make sense to return to the series' roots as a sidescroller. I just hope they don't ruin it with lame level design, bad story/voice acting and all that. your thoughts?
Cerium
03-27-2008, 10:32 AM
Hmmmm if Big The Cat, Cream The Rabbit, a human that falls in love with Sonic OR any sort of Talking Robot thing appears in this game, I have lost all hope for this :(
KoopaDasher
03-27-2008, 10:47 AM
Honestly Vengeance, why do you WANT them to reinvent the series? That has been the problem with the last games. They need to STOP reinventing and just go back to what made the original games great. Take out the story, take out the crappy 30 characters they have created, take out the kiddish Sonic voice, and just concentrate on making it as fast as possible to the point that it's like the old games, and you have to memorize the courses to be able to complete them. Give me five lives and the entire game to complete and no save capability and I'll be happy. Seriously. Don't let people save it. The arcade aspect of the original ones is what I like about them.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 10:53 AM
Sega NEED to reinvent the series before its gone for good!! This will surely be Sonics last chance at 3D happiness? If Sonic Unleashed is a critical and sales flop then surely Sega will just give up once and for all and admit Sonic just does not work in 3D. Unless they go back to the happy Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 days then wave bye bye to 3D Sonic platforming games forever because Sega aren't gonna keep this up if they aren't making any profit from the games.
jevangod
03-27-2008, 11:16 AM
They should make this game for the wii. Cause the PS3 games with sonic havent been doing so well. Like the Sonic the Hedgehog. That sucked for the PS3. Humans and Sonic characters dont look right together. The only hum in the game should be Eggman. Plus the wii game Sonic and the Secret Rings was way better.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 11:22 AM
They should make this game for the wii. Cause the PS3 games with sonic havent been doing so well. Like the Sonic the Hedgehog. That sucked for the PS3. Humans and Sonic characters dont look right together. The only hum in the game should be Eggman. Plus the wii game Sonic and the Secret Rings was way better.
Sonic Unleashed has been announced for the Xbox 360 and Wii. The screenshots everyone is talking about were running on an Xbox 360. A PS3 version is yet to be confirmed but im pretty certain it will happen.
Ratchetcomand
03-27-2008, 11:42 AM
A reboot would be nice just like Batman Begins and Godzilla 1984 where.
jevangod
03-27-2008, 11:44 AM
Sonic Unleashed has been announced for the Xbox 360 and Wii. The screenshots everyone is talking about were running on an Xbox 360. A PS3 version is yet to be confirmed but im pretty certain it will happen.
Thank god.
mchapra
03-27-2008, 11:51 AM
it just brings you back to sonicCD just hope it doesn't suck
kirby22
03-27-2008, 11:57 AM
i have hopes for this. the graphics look good, hopefully there will be NO robots, cream, big, or rouge in this game. IDK I hate rouge. We all have to expect bad voice acting, there always IS. If this is unsucessful, I'd give up on Sonic. They screwed his games up so bad these last few years. They should probably start making another console of their own again.
Ratchetcomand
03-27-2008, 12:02 PM
I hope the 4kids voice actors are not in it.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 12:06 PM
I completely agree with Koopa on this one.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 12:09 PM
I hope the 4kids voice actors are not in it.
I imagine they prob will be...... oh well! :(
And yes the graphics do look rather brilliant BUT the graphics weren't exactly the problem with the last couple of Sonic games were they? Its the gameplay, the controls and the awful loading times that really mucked up Sonic '06.
I must congratulate Sega though on the storylines they think of for these Sonic games! Okay they aren't excellent but at least they are making an effort with the story. It would be all too easy for them to just say "Dr Eggman is taking over the world, Sonic tries to stop him, the end" over and over again.
I mean how many times has Nintendo used the "Bowser Capturing Peach" story? Sooo many times now it has become boring! Well, at least Mario is fun to play and I guess that should be the main focus with this new game.
VGMaster
03-27-2008, 12:12 PM
I must congratulate Sega though on the storylines they think of for these Sonic games! Okay they aren't excellent but at least they are making an effort with the story. It would be all too easy for them to just say "Dr Eggman is taking over the world, Sonic tries to stop him, the end" over and over again.
I mean how many times has Nintendo used the "Bowser Capturing Peach" story? Sooo many times now it has become boring! Well, at least Mario is fun to play and I guess that should be the main focus with this new game.
good point there
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Honestly Vengeance, why do you WANT them to reinvent the series? That has been the problem with the last games. They need to STOP reinventing and just go back to what made the original games great. Take out the story, take out the crappy 30 characters they have created, take out the kiddish Sonic voice, and just concentrate on making it as fast as possible to the point that it's like the old games, and you have to memorize the courses to be able to complete them. Give me five lives and the entire game to complete and no save capability and I'll be happy. Seriously. Don't let people save it. The arcade aspect of the original ones is what I like about them.
that's kinda what i'm saying. You should've played Sonic Rush, because that was fast as hell and it was fun to play. If they simply make it like that, i'll be satified. But why no save capability? That'd be a little unfair. It's not like they didn't add it in the original game on purpose, they didnt have the technology at the time. I don't think they did, anyway.
Oh, and why does everyone say "Hm... this should come to the Wii!" there's NO WAY this could possibly come to the Wii. The graphics are way too advanced and Sega would ruin it with the terrible controls. Secret Rings blew. And no, the storylines have not been good recently. Rush Adventure's was bad, it was the same pirate theme that's been overdone to death along with generic characters and lousy script. Secret Rings' was even worse, it didn't make too much sense at times and it was a complete BORE to sit through the cutscenes. The random cameos and some of the worst lines in video game history do not help at all. And don't get me started on Sonic 06. Same old "lose Princess, find Princess, lose Princess, find Princess" over and over again. I know Mario games have never really had too much of a storyline but it's the simplicity of Mario games that makes them so god damn awesome. The storyling of the Sonic games was already screwed up, the whole Shadow's memory thing, and it just got even more confusing with the time travel elements. Not to mention, Silver is one of the WORST characters I have ever seen. And why not a Playstation 3 version anyway? What would be the difference between that and a 360 version? If you're saying Sonic 06 looked bad on a PS3, it looked no better on the 360. Every problem with the PS3 version was present in the 360 version too. How can you say "Sonic games have been sucking on PS3" but not "Sonic games have been sucking on 360"? They both share the same godawful game. More biased fanboyism? If you're going to complain about SIXAXIS controls then the Wii is completely out of the question here. If this game is ANYTHING like Secret Rings or Sonic 06 I will never touch a Sonic game as long as I live. I won't even play Adventure 2. It'll make me cry in agony about how bad Sonic has gone. This is SEGA's last chance. If they mess up this one, they are finished.
/rant
TwistedTinkerToy
03-27-2008, 12:40 PM
This game will turn out just like Secret Rings.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Oh, and why does everyone say "Hm... this should come to the Wii!" there's NO WAY this could possibly come to the Wii.
Yeah not mean to disappoint you but this IS coming to the Wii.
And why not a Playstation 3 version anyway? What would be the difference between that and a 360 version? If you're saying Sonic 06 looked bad on a PS3, it looked no better on the 360. Every problem with the PS3 version was present in the 360 version too. How can you say "Sonic games have been sucking on PS3" but not "Sonic games have been sucking on 360"? They both share the same godawful game. More biased fanboyism?
/rant
What the F*** are you talking about? Why are you making up stuff? When did I say I didnt want to see a PS3 version? When did I say Sonic 06 looked bad on the PS3? When did I say Sonic games suck on the PS3?
Why the hell are you accusing me of biased fanboyism when I havent done anything of the sort?? I never thought you were one to make up a load of crap Greg! Wow get some glasses...
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 12:56 PM
Only Sonic game I'm ever buying - EVER - is Dark Brotherhood, because I <3 BioWare.
They could make a Teen People MMO and it would be Game of the Year, I guarantee it.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:08 PM
What the F*** are you talking about? Why are you making up stuff? When did I say I didnt want to see a PS3 version? When did I say Sonic 06 looked bad on the PS3? When did I say Sonic games suck on the PS3?
Why the hell are you accusing me of biased fanboyism when I havent done anything of the sort?? I never thought you were one to make up a load of crap Greg! Wow get some glasses...
You need to calm down. You use an "!" in like every sentence. And no, I did not accuse you of ANYTHING. Please read a bit more. I was not really talking to anyone specific, but mostly Jevangod. Read his post. Pretty much everything you are getting pissed off about now is what he said. I wish people would take the time to read more carefully. -__-
Cerium
03-27-2008, 01:12 PM
You need to calm down. You use an "!" in like every sentence. And no, I did not accuse you of ANYTHING. Please read a bit more. I was not really talking to anyone specific, but mostly Jevangod. Read his post. Pretty much everything you are getting pissed off about now is what he said. I wish people would take the time to read more carefully. -__-
"I was not really talking to anyone specific, but mostly Jevangod."
Yeah because that sentence makes loads of sense!
I dont get how Jevangod was being a fanboy though? He is right when he said Sonic sucked more on the PS3 because the PS3 version did have framerate issues and slowdown. If your referring your message to something someone said, maybe you should say names to avoid confusion?
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:16 PM
He is right when he said Sonic sucked more on the PS3 because the PS3 version did have framerate issues and slowdown.
right, and the 360 version didn't.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 01:24 PM
right, and the 360 version didn't.
It did but the PS3 version was slightly worse
IGN rated Xbox 360 Sonic 4.8/10 and PS3 Sonic 4.2/10
Gamespot rated Xbox 360 Sonic 4.4/10 and PS3 Sonic 4.2/10
Games Master UK rated Xbox 360 Sonic 76/100 and PS3 Sonic 57/100
gamesTM rated Xbox 360 5/10 and PS3 Sonic 4/10
Do you get my point here?
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:26 PM
with the exception of Games Master (obviously they were on crack at the time) those scores are only like, a couple of points apart... framerate issues, loading times, graphical problems or whatever, both versions are terrible. THE END.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 01:27 PM
Nah, it was the biased reviewers.
And illegal immigrants.
jevangod
03-27-2008, 01:28 PM
Sonic the Hedgehog sucked on the PS3 and 360. The only good sonic game that has come out in the past couple of years was Sonic and the secret rings. Its not the 360's fault it was the makers who made the game. I mean the game doesnt look right with humans and sonic characters.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 01:28 PM
with the exception of Games Master (obviously they were on crack at the time) those scores are only like, a couple of points apart... framerate issues, loading times, graphical problems or whatever, both versions are terrible. THE END.
Oh yes I agree! Both versions were very bad! The PS3 version was just slightly worse! THE END:D
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:35 PM
Sonic and the Secret Rings was just as bad. This game had amazing potential but it totally blew it. The controls were unresponsive, infuriating, and designed horribly. Why must Sonic constantly be running forward? Why do I have to hold down the 1 Button with all my might to keep him still? Why can't I just turn him around and run back? Why does Sonic jump only about 3 feet in the air but 10 feet forwards, unless I have him at a complete standstill? Why is Sonic stopped by wind (levitating ruin level) when he's the fastest thing in existence? Why can't Sega keep the speed at a reasonable level instead of throwing you into an un-navigatable mess of enemies, rings and obstructive platforms, and sometimes keeping you from going anything above 10mph? Why is the multiplayer boring and repetitive, and still contains all the same godawful controls? Why is the music so lame? Why is the story so cliche? WHY? because the game sucks!
Cerium
03-27-2008, 01:37 PM
Sonic and the Secret Rings was just as bad. This game had amazing potential but it totally blew it. The controls were unresponsive, infuriating, and designed horribly. Why must Sonic constantly be running forward? Why do I have to hold down the 1 Button with all my might to keep him still? Why can't I just turn him around and run back? Why does Sonic jump only about 3 feet in the air but 10 feet forwards, unless I have him at a complete standstill? Why is Sonic stopped by wind (levitating ruin level) when he's the fastest thing in existence? Why can't Sega keep the speed at a reasonable level instead of throwing you into an un-navigatable mess of enemies, rings and obstructive platforms, and sometimes keeping you from going anything above 10mph? Why is the multiplayer boring and repetitive, and still contains all the same godawful controls? Why is the music so lame? Why is the story so cliche? WHY? because the game sucks!
I actually thought the game was pretty good! ITS JUST MY OPINION SO DONT GO BLASTING ME SAYING I DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PLATFORMERS:D
I thought the controls worked fine? Maybe you just need a bit of practise Greg.
jevangod
03-27-2008, 01:38 PM
Sonic and the Secret Rings was just as bad. This game had amazing potential but it totally blew it. The controls were unresponsive, infuriating, and designed horribly. Why must Sonic constantly be running forward? Why do I have to hold down the 1 Button with all my might to keep him still? Why can't I just turn him around and run back? Why does Sonic jump only about 3 feet in the air but 10 feet forwards, unless I have him at a complete standstill? Why is Sonic stopped by wind (levitating ruin level) when he's the fastest thing in existence? Why can't Sega keep the speed at a reasonable level instead of throwing you into an un-navigatable mess of enemies, rings and obstructive platforms, and sometimes keeping you from going anything above 10mph? Why is the multiplayer boring and repetitive, and still contains all the same godawful controls? Why is the music so lame? Why is the story so cliche? WHY? because the game sucks!
Yep it was just as bad but thats why it got a better ranking Hmmmmmm ;)
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:43 PM
Practice? I spent almost a year trying to get as far through the game as possible. I ultimately gave up because it was pissing me off so much, and with what story they were giving me, it was not worth the effort. It seems everyone says the controls are fine, but I guess it's because they are struggling to handle the fact that an incredibly overhyped game turned out to be garbage. They worked almost two years on it. Remember when it was called Sonic Wild Fire, on the Nintendo Revolution? Believe me, as a big Sonic fan, I was looking forward to it. The only thing that keeps this from being less dissapointing than Sonic 06 is that the latter shared the same name as the original game, and was apparently the first "next-gen" Sonic game.
@jevan: read the above paragraph. They didn't want to admit that it was an awful game, because it was a revolutionary (no pun intended) idea and could've possibly been the best one yet.
oh, and by the way, it's not just the newer Sonic games that really suck. Sonic R, Sonic 3D, Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Adventures, Tails Skypatrol, Sonic the Fighters and the GameGear version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 all sucked too.
Ratchetcomand
03-27-2008, 01:47 PM
The last good 3D sonic game was Sonic Heros IMO. It was more fun then the newer games IMO.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 01:48 PM
Sonic Heroes was decent. It could've been tons better but it was playable at least.
Ratchetcomand
03-27-2008, 01:50 PM
At least it the old voice acting in it.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 01:59 PM
SONIC DOESN'T NEED VOICE ACTING! THEY'RE ANIMALS, DAMMIT! *breaks down crying*
jevangod
03-27-2008, 02:12 PM
The best Sonic game ive played so far was Sonic Adventures 2
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:13 PM
oh, and by the way, it's not just the newer Sonic games that really suck. Sonic R, Sonic 3D, Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Adventures, Tails Skypatrol, Sonic the Fighters and the GameGear version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 all sucked too.
I found Sonic Labyrinth mildly enjoyable....... dont hit me:(
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm sorry, but I am going to have to hit you.
*smack*
I may have said bad things about Sonic 06 and Secret Rings, but Sonic Labyrinth is not just the worst Sonic game ever. It IS the worst game I have ever played. Sonic is about speed. In this game he couldnt run for jack shit. I played this game for 10 seconds, turned it off, and put in Sonic Adventure 2.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:24 PM
I'm sorry, but I am going to have to hit you.
*smack*
I may have said bad things about Sonic 06 and Secret Rings, but Sonic Labyrinth is not just the worst Sonic game ever. It IS the worst game I have ever played. Sonic is about speed. In this game he couldnt run for jack shit. I played this game for 10 seconds, turned it off, and put in Sonic Adventure 2.
Awww come on! Thats harsh!! At least admit it was better than Sonic 3D?! I didnt even bother to get past the second level in that game! It just bored me! And bare in mind Sonic Labyrinth was released ages ago.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 02:25 PM
Sonic Spinball > Your favorite game.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 02:26 PM
And bare in mind Sonic Labyrinth was released ages ago.
The irony of that statement is killing me...
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 02:28 PM
*astounded nobody has called me out for being a "pervert" yet*
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:29 PM
The irony of that statement is killing me...
Sorry your gonna have to explain that one to me:confused:
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 02:34 PM
everyone says the old Sonic games > new ones, right? That's is mostly true, but you used "it was made a long time ago" as an excuse for it being uber suckage. Really now... if that were the case, this whole debate about older and newer games probably wouldnt exist.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 02:36 PM
*still astounded*
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:43 PM
everyone says the old Sonic games > new ones, right? That's is mostly true, but you used "it was made a long time ago" as an excuse for it being uber suckage. Really now... if that were the case, this whole debate about older and newer games probably wouldnt exist.
No I meant about it being really old as in comparrison to Sonic 3D which was the game I was talking about.
Basically I was trying to say considering Sonic Labyrinth was made way before Sonic 3D, you have to admit its a better game. Especially for its time.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 02:46 PM
"for it's time"? So wait, there was no such thing as a good game in the 80's or 90's? Do you not know what Super Mario Bros is? Have you never touched a Zelda game? being old is no excuse for being bad. Some of the greatest games in existence are older than ourselves.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:48 PM
"for it's time"? So wait, there was no such thing as a good game in the 80's? Do you not know what Super Mario Bros is? Have you never touched a Zelda game? being old is no excuse for being bad. Some of the greatest games in existence are older than ourselves.
Im older than the greatest game in existence..... Sonic The Hedgehog 2 on Sega Megadrive.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 02:50 PM
Note that i said "SOME of the greatest games in existence"
SOME, NOT ALL, SOME.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 02:51 PM
For the nostalgia factor, yeah. It doesn't make them better, per se. Ask any person what the better game is, Gears of War or Super Mario Bros. and I guarantee you 9 out of 10 of them will say Mario Bros. is better, even though Gears is an astronomically better designed game. It's because Super Mario made people care about video games.
jevangod
03-27-2008, 02:53 PM
For the nostalgia factor, yeah. It doesn't make them better, per se. Ask any person what the better game is, Gears of War or Super Mario Bros. and I guarantee you 9 out of 10 of them will say Mario Bros. is better, even though Gears is an astronomically better designed game. It's because Super Mario made people care about video games.
Yep Nintendo cares about the people mostly not the money like Microsoft and Sony.
KheartsKing
03-27-2008, 02:54 PM
wow fun "official thread" with loads of agreement and no arguing!
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 02:57 PM
Yep Nintendo cares about the people mostly not the money like Microsoft and Sony.
Heh heh heh. If Nintendo didn't care about the money, they would have gone out of business a loonnnnnngggggggg time ago.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 02:58 PM
wow fun "official thread" with loads of agreement and no arguing!
Its not arguing!! Its 'discussing'
And I think discussing is a good thing as it shows people care what other people say and it brings everyone together ^_^ ..... sorta.
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 03:05 PM
Heh heh heh. If Nintendo didn't care about the money, they would have gone out of business a loonnnnnngggggggg time ago.
No, Nintendo do care about their money, but that's not their main motivation. They would rather satisfy their customers with a great game than earn millions overnight. If it wasn't for Miyamoto's Donkey Kong, they would've gone bankrupt. They make their games for a living, but the first thing that comes to their mind when they make a game is whether the customer will like it or not.
Cerium
03-27-2008, 03:08 PM
No, Nintendo do care about their money, but that's not their main motivation. They would rather satisfy their customers with a great game than earn millions overnight. If it wasn't for Miyamoto's Donkey Kong, they would've gone bankrupt. They make their games for a living, but the first thing that comes to their mind when they make a game is whether the customer will like it or not.
Sorry but Nintendo are a BUSINESS and a businesses main aim is to make money and make a profit! Obviously they do care about their customers too but profits will always come first! I did Business Studies in college last year:D
I mean, if Nintendo cared about us customers that much, Super Smash Brawl would of been released by now....:mad:
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm sure there must be some explanation. Nintendo aren't the only ones who do that, y'know.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 03:10 PM
No, Nintendo do care about their money, but that's not their main motivation. They would rather satisfy their customers with a great game than earn millions overnight. If it wasn't for Miyamoto's Donkey Kong, they would've gone bankrupt. They make their games for a living, but the first thing that comes to their mind when they make a game is whether the customer will like it or not.
If Nintendo's first priority is satisfying customers, then this never would have happened:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-v6a5y8GL._AA280_.jpg
Vengeance
03-27-2008, 03:15 PM
Note that it says "LICENSED BY NINTENDO" in the corner. Nintendo's involvement in the development of that apparent crap game was next to nothing. It's like when you see a Microsoft logo at the very bottom of any Xbox 360 game box. Unless their logo is actually on the front, with the "Game Studios" part of it, then they didn't make it. And besides... that's a very obscure game. I've never heard of or seen it before.
KheartsKing
03-27-2008, 03:15 PM
nintendo cares bout both.
i commented your box cerium
jevangod
03-27-2008, 04:04 PM
No, Nintendo do care about their money, but that's not their main motivation. They would rather satisfy their customers with a great game than earn millions overnight. If it wasn't for Miyamoto's Donkey Kong, they would've gone bankrupt. They make their games for a living, but the first thing that comes to their mind when they make a game is whether the customer will like it or not.
Exactly. Nintendo cares about the customers. Thats why the system werent so expensive like microsoft and sony. Games too.
xIAMHUNTERx
03-27-2008, 04:43 PM
Note that it says "LICENSED BY NINTENDO" in the corner. Nintendo's involvement in the development of that apparent crap game was next to nothing. It's like when you see a Microsoft logo at the very bottom of any Xbox 360 game box. Unless their logo is actually on the front, with the "Game Studios" part of it, then they didn't make it. And besides... that's a very obscure game. I've never heard of or seen it before.
Don't be coy. You know the Nintendo systems have the most half-assed games.
(NOTE TO WII FANBOYS: NOT THAT ALL THEIR GAMES ARE BAD BUT THAT OF ALL THE CONSOLES, IT HAS THE MOST OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF LOGO'D GRAHAM CRACKERS.)
PuzzleMan1337
03-27-2008, 04:48 PM
Don't be coy. You know the Nintendo systems have the most half-assed games.
(NOTE TO WII FANBOYS: NOT THAT ALL THEIR GAMES ARE BAD BUT THAT OF ALL THE CONSOLES, IT HAS THE MOST OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF LOGO'D GRAHAM CRACKERS.)
Yeah, but all the games that Nintendo themselves make are all quality games. Not all the games they liscence to be on their systems are good though.
mousepad
04-05-2008, 08:25 AM
apparently, this game is a complete Rip-off of Twilight Princess with the whole wolf thing.
EggBoy13
04-05-2008, 08:49 AM
apparently, this game is a complete Rip-off of Twilight Princess with the whole wolf thing.
i was just thinking that :D
VGMaster
04-05-2008, 09:21 AM
Not nessesarily. TP didn't come up with the werewolf concept. The werewolf concept is for anyone to use. It's not a "Zelda thing." People have used werewolves in games long before TP
mousepad
04-05-2008, 09:47 AM
Not nessesarily. TP didn't come up with the werewolf concept. The werewolf concept is for anyone to use. It's not a "Zelda thing." People have used werewolves in games long before TP
I understand That fact, But I Mean It was Twilight Princess That Made The Idea Big!
VGMaster
04-05-2008, 09:50 AM
No they didn't. I don't think you read what I said. People have transformed into wolves in games before.
mousepad
04-05-2008, 10:13 AM
No they didn't. I don't think you read what I said. People have transformed into wolves in games before.
I DID read it, But it was that game that strikes me as the biggest one to hit the shelves.
Ratchetcomand
04-05-2008, 10:18 AM
The gameplay looks the same of Sonic 06. I'm going to rent the game until i see if i like it or not.
HalfSwiss
04-06-2008, 09:26 AM
Hehe. At night you turn into werewolf Sonic. Funny thing is, my mains in Brawl are Wolf and Sonic.
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