Guns of the Patriots TGS trailer

[WickedGamer1]

Who else saw it?
ok, after seeing it, who else is drooling?
i know I am!
oh my god that made want to buy a PS3.
simply for that game.
as much as i disapprove of many of the things sony is doing with its new console, i MUST have that game.
Young snake will be in the game!:D :D :D
oh damn!
ok. im extremely hyper right now, so i'll just stop while i'm ahead (or did i already fall behind?) and say:
if you've seen it (and like MGS), go ahead and post your ideas and opinions on it here.
if you haven't seen it....well... here you go: http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.html
If you dont care...well i dont care that you dont care, and it would be nice if you would just not be a jerk and post here how much you think the PS3 sucks.
kthxbye!

-DereK/WG1

[afghanballer]

Yea the trailer is awesome.


PS: i preorderd my ps3 and resistance fall of man yesterday!!!!!

[E_G]

So Wicked will you be buying a PS3 for it?:rolleyes:

Not me, not for a couple of years, shame on Sony having un-necceary Blu ray on the console to stoop the price so expensive, well theres always LOZ:TP.
As for the young Snake, many theorize it’s just a joke like the Raiden spoof in the third game and the character being pigeon pooped on enforces that.
I hope it’s not a joke and theres a big surprise like Solid Snake not being the main playable character in MGS2.:D

[Gunslinger]

:eek:

That trailer plus footage of Devil May Cry 4 is slowly pushing me towards getting a PS3. I have all the consoles from this gen (yup, even the Dreamcast) but seeing as how expensive the newer games/systems are getting i'll probably hold off on getting just two.

Right now my thinking is a Wii/360 combo and just rent the PS3 once MGS4, DMC4 and the Final Fantasy's start coming. But dear lord, MGS4 looks godly.

[Ratchetcomand]

I'm Going to buy a PS3 for Metal gear soild 4 . It the best looking PS3 game and the grphics are real as possible . Devil May Cry 4 and FF3 look good as well .

[WickedGamer1]

Yea the trailer is awesome.


PS: i preorderd my ps3 and resistance fall of man yesterday!!!!!
good luck getting that on launch :\
i heard theres not many that will be available, so i hope for your sake you got it pre ordered early enough...
you lucky bastard

[WickedGamer1]

i have a quick little theory about the young snake being in the new trailer.
ok, so if you look closely, at the very beginning, snake gets up off the ground on which he was camouflaged, the camo quickly dicipates from his suit, but if you notice, it was also on his face!
how can that be?
i thought that special camo was only on the suit...
maybe the "old snake" is only a disguise!
hmmm????
the only thing this doesn't explain would be when snake injected that stuff in his neck in the TGS '05 trailer, but other than that, it seems like a possiblilty, no?




thoughts? please share =)

[PunisherAB]

good luck getting that on launch :\
i heard theres not many that will be available, so i hope for your sake you got it pre ordered early enough...
you lucky bastard

I know what u feeling wickedgamer, he's lucky...
On Oct, 10, 2006 was the only day to preorder the PS3, to get it on launch day, and only up to 8-12 people could preorder for to get it on launch, due to that gamespot/ebgames will only get 8-12 PS3 at launch, and other stores will get only 3-4 PS3...
I bet afghanballer waited all night on monday to earily tuesday to get the preorder...

So now you all have to wait an hell of an long time to get the PS3, which make me piss off due to that I have to wait...but atleast MGS4 wont come out untill 2007. :D

And for all who pre-order online, I doubt you'll get it on launch, you maybe get it five weeks after or three at tops.

Thank god, I'm getting an Wii to keep me busy untill they have PS3 to buy. (plus the other things to keep me busy, like my animation and websites.)

Also MGS4 is the only reason (with also KH3) to get an PS3, but their will be other games too.

[Gunslinger]

Interesting theory WG1. I think it's just Kojima being a prankster similar to how Snake has a Raiden mask (if you answer questions a certain way) at the begining of MGS:SE. So i'm going with it's a 'just a joke' theory. ;)

[E_G]

i have a quick little theory about the young snake being in the new trailer.
ok, so if you look closely, at the very beginning, snake gets up off the ground on which he was camouflaged, the camo quickly dicipates from his suit, but if you notice, it was also on his face!
how can that be?
i thought that special camo was only on the suit...
maybe the "old snake" is only a disguise!
hmmm????
the only thing this doesn't explain would be when snake injected that stuff in his neck in the TGS '05 trailer, but other than that, it seems like a possiblilty, no?




thoughts? please share =)

I think Old Snake will be the main playable character, no Raiden or Young Snake.

Hidoe Kojima has commented occasionally; on why he made Raiden the main playable protagonist; that was to give a shift in direction, so new MGS premises isn’t just Snake on a new mission, like Splinter cell, Raiden allowed the players to perceive Snake and the first game allowed you to experienced Snake, MGS3 marked the beginning of the legend, you played his father, and MGS4 will be the end, the last in the Solid Snake Saga.

Playing Old Snake gives the feeling of growth, circling the 20th anniveristy of Metal Gear, Old Snake coincides with MGSs death, Solid Snake is confirmed to die by Hideo and to the players this will be the leaving of the main Metal Gear Solids, that’s how the game will keep the series in a unique direction.

[WickedGamer1]

I got this off of metalgearsolid.org
it's from the newest OPM



OPM
We noticed in the new MGS4 trailer that Snake seems to be shooting soldiers from both sides of the conflict. With graphics getting more realistic do you feel that the moral aspect of gaming is going to become more important?

Kojima
Well, this time Snake has his own rivals and destiny so he's in a battlefield but sometimes the people there don't have anything to do with him. So yes, there's a moral aspect to what Snake should or could do to others that are not really involved in his actions. It's up to the player, and thats a deliberate theme this time.

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OPM
Does this freedom to make moral choices reflect how people approach Metal Gear games in different ways - with some people blasting through and some using stealth more - or is it just a reflection of the morally murky way wars are being fought now?

Kojima
There are three aspects to this. Firstly, theres the real world changing as it is now with the Americans going everywhere and creating war. Secondly, theres MGS4's theme and plot, which has something to do with this. And the third aspect is that while MGS has always been a sneaking mission, FPS shooting is a trend and i really wanted to give players that freedom this time. I also want players to discover their emotions about how war changes life and people. You may decide to stick with nation 'A', or 'B' in the game's war, or you could destroy both. You could also choose not to ally with either country. There are not political issues involved for Snake. You don't have to kill the enemy, but you might decide to. I want people to understant that kind of feeling - killing someone you had no intention to kill. These days, with any FPS you're either on side 'A' or side 'B' and you're killing, killing, killing, but my games shouldn't be like that, and thats why i have this big theme. Of course, this is still a game and i don't people to be sick every time they shoot an enemy.

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OPM
The original tagline for MGS4 was 'No place to hide', and yet the more wee see OctoCam it seems that, now, potentially everywhere is a place to hide. To what extent will gamers be able to come up with creative places to stow away?

Kojima
In the MGS series there has always been some obstacle or other that you could hide behind and not show your body so you wouldn't get spotted. This time it's not like you hide somewhere - its more that you're in sight but out of sight in the battlefield. You're out of attention, so to say.

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OPM
Can you expand on that?

Kojima
To use a funny analogy - in the past, the MGS series was like a bank robber trying to rob a bank at night; so there are guards, cameras etc. And when you get spotted you're instantly known as the robber. But in this game, you're going into the bank at midday. You might just be a customer going in to make a deposit, but you still have to sneak in to accomplish your mission. So you're trying to deceive. You're on camera, so if you do weird things you'll be spotted as the robber, but if you don't you won't. Its more about deceiving the eye. I can't really reveal the top secrets but we [the development team] did our training camp in the mountains as we always do, and this time we had that kind of training: deceiving the eye, or crawling unseen while you're in view. Thats what we did for MGS4.

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[b]OPM
In the first MGS4 trailer we saw an ageing Snake inject himself with something. At the end of the trailer we see what looks like a younger Solid Snake: is that him having reversed the effects of the serum or not?

Kojima
I put that in there because i wanted you to think about it, but its not something you will actually know until you play the game

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OPM
Can you tell us how the new bipedal cyborg Metal Gears will impact on the gameplay? They appear to operate in packs...

Kojima
Its not necessarily about Snake vs these Metal Gears - the GEKKOs (Japanese for 'Moonlight'). Sometimes GEKKOs will spot you as you're the enemy, but sometimes you're not necessarily the enemy to them. This means that is might be nation 'A' vs GEKKO and Snake can walk right past the. There will be some situations like that, and vice versa.

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OPM
We know the Middle East features in MGS4 and you've said you want this game to be like James Bond with Snake travelling the world. Is there any chance he'll visit the UK?[/u]

Kojima
Unfortunatly not. I want to go there, actually. But not Snake - not this time. Officially, the new locations are somewhere in the Middle East, somewhere in South America and somewhere in Eastern Europe.

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[b]OPM
What prompted you to start motion-capturing real actors in MGS4? I understand you had you had a Japanese actress, (Yumi Kikuchi) on the stage, and demonstrated how she was scanned for use in the game...

Kojima
I cannot really say specifically as it would spoil MGS4s plot. However, i can just hint that one group in the game will use an actual skeleton and skin texture, and thats why we needed it. Of course, for Snake and Otacon we don't have real models. They are created, so there is a risk it won't work if you put the real actress or actors next to these people. However, we're thinking about how to make it a natural fit.

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OPM
Is it important to the plot that this group looks different?

Kojima
Yes. Exactly.


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OPM
Was Ms Kikuchi happy with her likeness?

Kojima
I hope she was happy. It's still a work in progress. What you saw was that we created a pure core of Ms Kikuchi the actress. She's not going to look like that in the game. She's going to be quite different. so don't think we're going to use it for promotional use like Capcom did with Takeshi Kaneshiro in Onimusha. We're not going to use her likeness like that.

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OPM
What are your feelings about the PS3s new Sixaxis controller and the loss of the Dual Shock 2's rumble?

Kojima
We can't say how we'll use the motion-sensing functionality specifically but we'll use it for sure. The controls in MGS3 got a little complex, so you'll have a little more direct control in MGS4. That said, i miss the rumble, and even now i hope it will come back.

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OPM
If we sneaked into the Kojima Productions offices now, what would we see? Would we be able to play anything?

Kojima
We're finally out of the research stage. We're now at a point where the system if finalised and we're saying 'lets go with this'. So the gauge and icons are there, but they're still temporary, meaning the design is still not fixed. Of course you can play, but we're still experimenting. If you go to one section you might play with the AI and enemies, while in other areas you can play around with the cameras or the background.

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OPM
Last time we talked there was some discussion that you weren't sure how best to incorporate Snake's little robot friend [The Metal Gear Mk.II], but now we see he's back in the game. We saw him electrocuting someone in the plums in the trailer. How will he work in the Guns Of The Patriots?

Kojima
Thats because you mentioned it. I remember that interview. You don't just electrocute people in the nuts, though. Thats in the trailer as a kind of a message that you can do something interesting with the Mk.II.

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OPM
So, are you saying that you can control the Mk.II in MGS4 yourself?

Kojima
Yes

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OPM
People in the UK always find people hit in the nuts very funny, so we're sure it will go down well.

Kojima
In France its always the shit part - the doo doo [laughs].

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OPM
Picture the scene: MGS4 has shipped to rave reviews and its selling strongly. Its your first day back at work. Whats the first item on your 'to do' list?

Kojima
If MGS4 sells, then its on to the next concept, which i have really wanted to do for a very long time. If it fails, I will probably start writing a letter to announce that i am leaving this company. Thats what i kind of want to do, actually. [Kojima pauses] Thats a joke...

[Radioactive Bob]

wait, so if they have Snakes son, that means they may continue the Metal Gear series? I couldn't play knowing one of video games coolest characters is dead and that i'm playing as his son... It would be too weird... :(
but that trailer did look amazing, but i noticed that when Snake (Big Boss now isn't it though?) was aiming at the enemy with his gun in first person, they didn't react, they just stood there waiting to be shot.
:confused:

[Fuzzy_duck]

I hope this does end up coming to the 360, it looks amazing!

[Ratchetcomand]

I hope this does end up coming to the 360, it looks amazing!

Sorry dude but Hideo Kojima said it exclusively for the Playstation 3.

If you what a good Stealth-based game for the Xbox360 then buy Splinter Cell: Double Agent .

[E_G]

wait, so if they have Snakes son, that means they may continue the Metal Gear series? I couldn't play knowing one of video games coolest characters is dead and that i'm playing as his son... It would be too weird... :(


Solid Snake can't have a normal son though.
Solidus Snake, his kin, in the second game stated subtly the clones of Big Boss, the original Snake, can't have children.

However he perharps could have a clone son, which is seemingly what he would'nt want, he put a gun to his head on the trailer and said 'all blood lines must come to an end' and also considering he may not want another 'Snake'
to be a pawn to the governments.

[Ratchetcomand]

wait, so if they have Snakes son, that means they may continue the Metal Gear series? I couldn't play knowing one of video games coolest characters is dead and that i'm playing as his son... It would be too weird... :(
but that trailer did look amazing, but i noticed that when Snake (Big Boss now isn't it though?) was aiming at the enemy with his gun in first person, they didn't react, they just stood there waiting to be shot.
:confused:

Maybe Raiden will be the new hero after MGS4 .

[PunisherAB]

Sorry dude but Hideo Kojima said it exclusively for the Playstation 3.

If you what a good Stealth-based game for the Xbox360 then buy Splinter Cell: Double Agent .

Even if what you said is true, they could change their mind and make it on 360 too. It would be like what Capcom did to Resident Evil 4, it could happen...And I'll tell you why...it's bussiness and these days with the expensive dev. kit (most epensive is the PS3), if they don't sell as well for PS3, they have to port it to 360, to make a profit, or they will lose money for the production.

Also it would be easy to port it to the 360, when more 360 games become HD in/by 2007/2008.

I not saying it will happen...I'm just saying it's a possibility, if the PS3 version doesn't sell well, if Sony doesn't sell enough consoles by 2008, or if Hideo Kojima wanted to.

[Radioactive Bob]

Solid Snake can't have a normal son though.
Solidus Snake, his kin, in the second game stated subtly the clones of Big Boss, the original Snake, can't have children.

However he perharps could have a clone son, which is seemingly what he would'nt want, he put a gun to his head on the trailer and said 'all blood lines must come to an end' and also considering he may not want another 'Snake'
to be a pawn to the governments.
yeah, maybe. I haven't gotten too far into MGS2. I stopped playing after i got annoyed with Raiden and his kiddie voice. :P
i will go back to it though. The most important MGS game - it seems - has the most annoying character be the only one you can play as. :rolleyes:

[Fuzzy_duck]

Sorry dude but Hideo Kojima said it exclusively for the Playstation 3.

If you what a good Stealth-based game for the Xbox360 then buy Splinter Cell: Double Agent .

Get the latest EGM, there is a rumor (yes, a rumor) that Konami is pushing Hideo Kojima to put this on the 360. Even if it is true, They might not decide to. But there is hope.:D :D :D

[WickedGamer1]

Get the latest EGM, there is a rumor (yes, a rumor) that Konami is pushing Hideo Kojima to put this on the 360. Even if it is true, They might not decide to. But there is hope.:D :D :D
i hope they port it. or something. because theres no way i'm spending $600+ on a console to play one game.

[Ratchetcomand]

Get the latest EGM, there is a rumor (yes, a rumor) that Konami is pushing Hideo Kojima to put this on the 360. Even if it is true, They might not decide to. But there is hope.:D :D :D

As soon as it's posted on either IGN or Gamespot I will believe that it's going to be multiport, but until then, it is still PS3 exclusive .