Bioshock Infinite - Who knows?

[Ray Blade]

Hi guys, this is either a return or a FAIL. xD I've been working on a lot of things recently, and I've even got a job lined up for me as a busboy at a Graphic Design Studio. :p So basically I'm really busy, but I'll always have time for my old time hobby! Boxart Design!

So, In essence, I've made everything here from scratch, outside of the brushes, some of the brush metal of the background, and the actual logo. Not sure where to go from here, as the concept art is SCARCE for the actual game... But I just want to know what everyone thinks so far. :]

Current Update(s)
CLICK THE IMAGES FOR A HUGE VERSION!
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6634/infinitecover10.png (http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Cover11.png) http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back4S.png (http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back4L.png)

Old Update(s)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4639/infinitecover4.png
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1080/infinitecover6.png
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8361/infinitecover8.png
http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567//PB160325.JPG

[Spiderpig24]

Holy shit man, that's quite awesome so far. It does look a little tall for a normal sized box though. Please continue this, wow.

[Ray Blade]

Thanks. :] And yeah it is a tad tall, but When I fit it to the template I'll take care of that. That's sized down by 50% from the original, and I'm working at HUGE proportions so >_<. But It'll all come together in the end, hopefully. Thank you though.

[stevencho]

Ya just change the size and I'm good. I can see this going Masterworks no problem.

[Ray Blade]

:O Masterworks? Me? Thank you!

[hesit8]

In comparison to the box the logo is a bit desaturated. I think it would look better if the logo matched the rest of the box. But yeah, looks really nice so far.

[LooseJuice]

Texture work and everything looks really nice so far.

[MattStar]

Oh my god. This looks great! I hope to see an update soon, and congrats on getting into a design company (even if your just a runner boy ;))

[Ray Blade]

How's this? I deepened the saturation on the logo instead of desaturating the background stuff, I tried it and it took away from the Gold-ish feel...

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1080/infinitecover6.png

[stevencho]

Good choice.

[Sentroavium]

What do you plan on doing for under the logo?

[RAiDeN-209]

I'm not British, but I feel compelled to say that it's "bloody brilliant".

[Ray Blade]

To be honest Sentroavium, I'm not exactly sure... :/

Like I said the artwork is very scarce, and I don't want to be jumpy. I would like to do something and move this along, but as there's not enough material, it's almost impossible for me to study the game and it's background. As of now, I'm kind of thinking a Mechanical Hand, and a Realistic rose, or vice versa. For what I DO know about the game, it's supposed to be in a 1700s, 1800s type timezone in which people live high above sea level of the Earth, and are fighting on political levels about the race and whatnot of the people they admit into their floating utopia. A Big Daddy wouldn't fit, since we're no longer in the "Underwater" theme, and there's no current renders for the Mechanical Crow thing featured in the trailer and Magazine covers. I'm in a bit of a dilemma to be honest. I've found a perfect image of a hand, but alas, it's far too small...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/419908233_3d52f085db_z.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/419908229_45bd2d3c3f.jpg

[Sentroavium]

I understand what you mean, you could sit on this thread for awhile until you find some art, I find that not rushing these helps. Although I do rush often myself.

[Ray Blade]

Haha, yeah, I think I will keep the project around for a while, but the game has a release date 2 years from now, so who knows when the artwork will be released. :P

[Ray Blade]

As a matter of a fact, I'm pretty sure I'm going to do a Dollar Bill type design with a large frame in the middle... That's the approach I want to take...

[Ray Blade]

Phew! I've been up ALL NIGHT reading reading reading! Studying studying studying! Above all else though, working working working!

Bioshock Infinite is going to be AWESOME, in case I haven't already made that clear. I've got to find a way to add some "Opposition" into the box; the game's story is revolved around the war going between two political factions on an abandoned, and technically lost, failed utopia floating miles above the Earth. One side, the rebellion of sorts, supports foreign races of people joining the reigning government, while the one the is currently in control is favorable to a "pure" government in which the other races are cast out of the floating city, in essence this side is racist if you will, and xenophobic. But there is a civil war within the rebellion, and after years of fighting the initial purpose is nearly abandoned, so hostility amongst the rebels is in all directions, including internally.

You know those Half Circle flags people hang from their patio? Those are called Buntings... Our first OFFICIAL flag, was made by Betsy Ross, who contrary to popular belief, did not make the flag because the nation was accepting flag ideas, but was actually consulted to make the flag. (She's a Graphic Designer!!!!!!)
There are 41 different types of American Flags, each is a revision to the flag when new states were bought and added to the nation...
There are over 10 different designs for a 51 state flag, only 2 are currently being considered...


Enough with the history! Here's the box... Since the last image I fixed the proportion, but I forgot to mention it...
Here I added the center circle, created a ribbon banner, golden nautical star crest, fixed the borders that cut the middle off so the center is evenly spaced and the side bars are equal in size, and tweaked the logo a tad... O_O! SLEEP!

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8361/infinitecover8.png

[Ray Blade]

So like... I couldn't stop working... and this came out..

I actually don't like it, because as it is... It's original, but unoriginal... The in-game wall, that this piece of political artwork is on seems to be quite prolific, but someone here already used it in their design. :/ Which was pretty rad, might I add. (hey that rhymed!)

But yeah... I'm not sure, I like the design, as far as what I've done with it, just not that it's THAT piece of art that's being focused on primarily... I may just go with it, it's growing on me.... Anywho, here's what I've come up with...

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6634/infinitecover10.png

[Spiner_]

I really like it, but at the same time I agree with you that it's not the most original idea ever. But it's probably not a big problem.

[super-mega-hyper-sonic]

Holy shit man that is EPIC!

[swe 08]

The background is very grungy, and it looks weird if compared with the text and images, which are in better shape. But it's an awesome box, no doubt.

[hesit8]

Looks great.

[Ray Blade]

Thanks guys! :)
@ swe 08, thanks for the crit, I think I know what you mean, to be honest that's one of the reasons I don't really favor the image used in the front, I had to size it UP to use it. I don't want to add a grunge texture to the image since I've had a bad experience on my Ip Man box with over texturing.
Not to demean your suggestion, but from what I've learned in my design class, the logo and highlight image should be clear enough to be spotted immediately, and I value that idea. Again, not to say that you're wrong, but I really think I should keep that image clear, although I do think I can carry some of the grunge texture over to it, even if it is very opaque.
I'll see if I can do something about it though, thanks for the input! :)

[mchapra]

erection.

[Ray Blade]

Thanks MChapra. :] I've got some pretty cool hand drawn design concepts for the back. I'll take a picture since i have no scanner at the moment and post them here soon!

[Flexx]

Pretty great, but there's one fix I'd like to see implemented: I'd like to see the "FOR GOD AND COUNTRY" ribbon moved down so the woman's head slightly overlaps it. This would add an extra level of depth to the piece, as well as allow more space for you to move the logo down (it's looking a bit high atm.)

Other than that, wonderwful work! I disagree with your idea that it's unoriginal---the propaganda-style poster idea has been used in previous Infinite boxes, but never in this style. Great job, I'm curious to see what you'll come up with next.

[Ray Blade]

Thanks Flexx! I actually did that already but wasn't satisfied with the results. xD When I moved the Ribbon down, it exposed the top of the Oval shape, and it made the box look a bit un-uniformed, so I moved the logo over the oval, and it looked too "overlapped", her head also covered the "AND", and her hands intersected with the word "COUNTRY" way too much. :/ I may recreate the ribbon in a similar fashion to the bottom one so I can manipulate it more I'll see what I can do, but as for your idea, I do like it! It's just a bit difficult to do with what I've got already. :P

Thanks for the comments and crits!! I've got this back design in the works...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567//PB160325.JPG

[sd1833]

The front looks superb, the highly saturated colors and grunge is great. The idea is probably something I'd expect from a BioShock Infinity case, but yours is looking to be the best one yet. The back idea looks promising, looking forward to more.

[Adhiboy]

That's kinda amazing.

[Ray Blade]

Thank you for the replies and compliments! I've got something going for the back so far based on the hand drawn designs I've done. I plan on keeping the overall theme of the front on the back, I'll probably fire up Illustrator and create some Flags to drape over the sides where the stars are on the front, and perhaps I'll design an eagle with it's wings spread for the center of the Saltonstall and Vox Populi images, sprouting up from the scroll where the description text will go. (Also not sure if I want to do a border box instead for the text, and not a scroll...) But in any case, here's what I've got, clicky for a larger view...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20BackS.png (http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20BackL.png)

[Ray Blade]

New update. :] Added an American Flag design behind the metallic cloud design, and some draping red and white flags along the sides. I'm really liking the way this is turning out!


http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back2S.png (http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back2L.png)

[Manuel_Alejandro95]

This is looking very awesome, if you tell me.

[sd1833]

I've no complaints, this is coming along very well.

[Ray Blade]

Hehe! Thanks! Wait until you see the update I post in a few minutes. It's just about done, Just gotta design a spine and find a good temp to fix it to...

[Ray Blade]

Presenting the back! :] This is probably the last update I'll do as I'm happy with both the back and front. Unless of course you guys catch something I don't. :P clicky for bigger picture! Oi! and that's Scorp's xBox Template info at the bottom chopped n screwed to work for me. :] Thanks Scorpion Solider.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back4S.png (http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Infinite%20Back4L.png)

[sd1833]

Excellent, this really came together nicely in the end. Probably the highest quality Infinite design to date, good work.

[YoshiStar]

REALLY nice. I would drastically reduce the inner shadows or whatever you did for the black blurry inner outlines in all the banners. I would also reduce the shadow on the scroll. It makes everything look tooo Photoshopped and cartoony, rather than gritty.

[Spiner_]

REALLY nice. I would drastically reduce the inner shadows or whatever you did for the black blurry inner outlines in all the banners. I would also reduce the shadow on the scroll. It makes everything look tooo Photoshopped and cartoony, rather than gritty.

I agree, the inner shadows makes it too cartoony.

[hesit8]

If you made the two character portraits sepia and throw a film grain over them I think it'd look better.

EDIT: I take that back.

[Ray Blade]

K! :) I'll give it a try and see what I can come up with. Also, I've decided to take a different approach with adding the xbox logo to this, I'm not going to pit the green and white banner across the top, but rather incorporate the logo into the box. I'll post a preview of what I mean.

[Ray Blade]

:[ It's not working, those banners are made in illustrator and in all honesty they're pretty flat... :P I'm not sure what I can do with them but I'll try and figure it out!

[LooseJuice]

This is truly phenomenal.

[YoshiStar]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/7162/tadaao.png

[DeathSpawn11]

Digging it to China. But change the text on the scrolls and stuff up. It wouldn't look all neat and proper like that, add a little grunge, and perhaps use more of a typewriter-y font. The normal type (Especially for the summary) looks really off.

[Spiderpig24]

Wow you have done quite a bit since I last saw this. The front turned out great, and I love where the back is going. I do agree with DS11 about the description font. It doesn't fit very well.

[Ray Blade]

xD Thanks Yoshi. lmao I know, I just meant the layers I made were flattened already. :p I'll have to re-Design them again and re-work the texturing and whatnot. :] I'll start now and see what I can come up with. I've also changed the writing to a more handwriting font, I'm not sure I like it so much though although it is more fitting... Any opinions?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/snapshot

[LooseJuice]

Dude, this is extraordinary. I would like to see a little grunge on the scroll with the description though. Nothing too heavy, just a little so it doesn't look so smooth next to all the grunge.

EDIT: I just looked at the front... damn dude. I can tell this is going to be one of my top 5 favorite boxes.

[Manuel_Alejandro95]

Just a question, are the pics of the guys in-game pictures?

[Ray Blade]

Thanks Loose. :]

And Manuel, yes they are. :] Even the painted picture on the front is an in-game snapshot. But the pictures on the back are in-game.

[Ray Blade]

Okay Yoshi. ;] How does this look?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/banner.png

[YoshiStar]

Muuuucchh better. Shadow is humongous though!! Make it smaller and tone it down a loot

[Ray Blade]

Haha I think so too. :] Shadow is big but it works for the box, see?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/12/30/3048567/Screenshot2

[amad2]

Thats just beautiful....

[ColonCatastrophe]

I actually kind of hate you for how wonderful this looks :D Keep it up, you're getting close to completion!

[super-mega-hyper-sonic]

Ah ray this is beautiful!
Keep it up!

[Flexx]

Beautiful. I looooove WIPs like this where you can follow every step of the production. Great work, man :D

[LooseJuice]

That extra grunge really balances it.

[Ray Blade]

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the feedback! Right now I'm working on a presentation, the box should be up within the next day or two. :) if I run into any other problems I'll post em here! ;)

[slimd1995]

Holy shit man, this is fantastic.

[stevencho]

Awesome stuff. I would tone down the splatters on the scroll on the back.

[Ray Blade]

Haha yep SC, one step ahead of ya. :) toned it down and blended it better. :)

BTW I may upload two variations, because I don't like how the xbox 360 temp works with the design, although I have managed to make something work!

[del337er]

I think you should duplicate the discription text layer, and make it black, then turn down the opacity to around 20. Just to make the text darker, and a bit easier to read, but still faded looking

[Ray Blade]

@del337er Ooh! Thanks, I did some work with the text to make it pop a bit more, toning down the busyness of the background actually brought it out a lot, while still giving it style. :]

PROBLEM GUYS!

The PNG file is 35 MB's.

xD I dont want to make it smaller! I ALWAYS have to... :/

[MattStar]

PLEASE let me fav this now! Damnit why must I wait!