View Full Version : Time to move beyond VG?
The site has kind of evolved beyond just game boxes - more into boxes or covers for almost anything really. Movie, TV, music, magazines and wallpapers...posters. There are quite a lot of movie and music entries, despite the site's focus on games.
So it's kind of a mecca for photoshop masters and would-be masters in the art of arranging assets (existing and self-created) into something new and interesting for all types of media. Maybe this is the direction that should be more encouraged and that the site should move toward. Many have become masters of game box arts, but what about masters of movie boxes or magazine covers or posters?
What I've been considering for a long time and have mentioned in the past was recreating the site as a "box artist" site instead of simply a "video game box artist" site. So it'd become The BoxWorks or something along those lines. The ultimate goal could be to have a MasterWorks entry in all the main categories.
Let's hear some thoughts/ideas.
AfterShock
05-30-2009, 10:10 AM
Well, I think it would definitely attract more users, but that could be good or bad.
Silent Oblivion
05-30-2009, 10:10 AM
If its changes I say just call it 'Boxart' .com, I dislike the name The Boxworks.
If its changes I say just call it 'Boxart' .com, I dislike the name The Boxworks.
BoxArt.com would be great, but anything that simple is going to be taken. So is the BoxWorks (so couldn't actually use that - it's just an example, but it's close to what I'm looking for).
Star89er
05-30-2009, 10:12 AM
If its changes I say just call it 'Boxart' .com
Yeah, that sounds-
DAMMIT! (http://boxart.com/)
I think it would be best to leave it as VGBoxArt. We all know that DVD's and CD's are OK to upload, and as other members join so will they, the only benefit i see is we will get more members and then again, that could turn-out to be a bad-thing. and besides, all existing users will have to remember the new domain, and it will all be far too confusing. Sorry Reed, thats just how I feel...
Lestat_the_vampire
05-30-2009, 10:14 AM
Not that your gonna probably listen to me, I think its fine the way it is, staying as vgboxart. If we change it, than more users will come, and we'll have movie boxes and music boxes, which will flood out the video game ones. Maybe as a pilot project, launch another website, but thats it. Leave it as VGBA.
Lestat.
xIAMHUNTERx
05-30-2009, 10:18 AM
There already is a boxart.com.
I think it should just be kept as is. Maybe magazine covers for video game magazines, but anything beyond that is just silly. Besides, book and magazine covers are pretty bland. Book covers generally have handdrawn art and magazine covers are just pictures.
The thing about the categories we have now is that they're all the final incarnation of the piece of media in question. A home release is the final step in movies, music, and games, so they have to be packed to catch your eye. A teaser poster for a movie is almost always really empty, which draws you in with anticipation for something unknown. Open the site up to include "easy" art and it'll be flooded with worthless submissions from people hoping to turn a quick fave because it's "new" and "minimalistic" and "stylish".
Not that your gonna probably listen to me, I think its fine the way it is, staying as vgboxart. If we change it, than more users will come, and we'll have movie boxes and music boxes, which will flood out the video game ones. Maybe as a pilot project, launch another website, but thats it. Leave it as VGBA.
Lestat.
I quite like that idea, another website, could be another sister site of VG
if that happens I would say somthing like CustomBoxArt.com or somthing!
super-mega-hyper-sonic
05-30-2009, 10:25 AM
If its changes I say just call it 'Boxart' .com, I dislike the name The Boxworks.
Boxart.com is taken http://boxart.com/
But I also dislike boxworks.
How about ultimateboxarts.com?
Cerium
05-30-2009, 10:26 AM
Not a bed idea Reed! It may make our website more popular and well-known which surely cant be a bad thing... right?
Boxart or BoxWorks are lame names though! You need to think of something simple yet appealing! Maybe have a little competition to come up with a new name for the website? And the prize could be.... I dunno..... Moderator powers for a day? ;)
AfterShock
05-30-2009, 10:27 AM
BoxArt.com would be great, but anything that simple is going to be taken. So is the BoxWorks (so couldn't actually use that - it's just an example, but it's close to what I'm looking for).
Yeah, that sounds-
DAMMIT! (http://boxart.com/)
There already is a boxart.com.
Boxart.com is taken http://boxart.com/
Just sayin'.
super-mega-hyper-sonic
05-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Not a bed idea Reed! It may make our website more popular and well-known which surely cant be a bad thing... right?
Boxart or BoxWorks are lame names though! You need to think of something simple yet appealing! Maybe have a little competition to come up with a new name for the website? And the prize could be.... I dunno..... Moderator powers for a day? ;)
Make it happen.
Yes, I would also like to see some Cereal Box cover art, Soda Can cover art, DVD-R spindle cover art, and so on.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3334/serveimagez.jpg
I choose to visit Cdcovers.com for other covers, I visit this site for video game covers and occasionally other covers.
I prefer it being mostly about video games because that's why I joined in the first place. I feel it would lose the charm if its turned into something else and its personality is changed. It might lose its appeal when it tries to appeal to a bigger demographic, because it could become less tight, more packed and less focused. This doesn't feel right to me...
Yes, I would also like to see some Cereal Box cover art, Soda Can cover art, DVD-R spindle cover art, and so on.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3334/serveimagez.jpg
haha, there is a cerial box lol!
My opinion is that a sister site for movies, cd's etc would be better than changing this whole site to all kinds of box arts.
My opinion is that a sister site for movies, cd's etc would be better than changing this whole site to all kinds of box arts.
Not a bad idea.
RoarShark
05-30-2009, 10:52 AM
Not a bad idea, might bring more people.
Lestat_the_vampire
05-30-2009, 10:57 AM
My opinion is that a sister site for movies, cd's etc would be better than changing this whole site to all kinds of box arts.
Not that your gonna probably listen to me, I think its fine the way it is, staying as vgboxart. If we change it, than more users will come, and we'll have movie boxes and music boxes, which will flood out the video game ones. Maybe as a pilot project, launch another website, but thats it. Leave it as VGBA.
Lestat.
Not trying to be rude, but you kind of stole my idea.
KoopaDasher
05-30-2009, 10:58 AM
I feel it would lose the charm if its turned into something else and its personality is changed. It might lose its appeal when it tries to appeal to a bigger demographic, because it could become less tight, more packed and less focused. This doesn't feel right to me...
My opinion is that a sister site for movies, cd's etc would be better than changing this whole site to all kinds of box arts.
I agree. The charm of VG is that the community is so small, so tight, so that you can make a name for yourself and be seen, instead of becoming like Deviantart, where you are just a number in a crowd, and any submission you make is lost in a flood of art within seconds. I don't mind the music covers or the DVD covers... It adds a bit of variety to the site. I also wouldn't mind seeing a special Hall for Movies and CDs. But I feel like expanding the site past its current base, to a generic design site, would only ruin the community aspect of the site, which is still its most appealing feature. We don't need more people... more people is half the problem we are having now, or at least new, trolling users. If you feel as though a sister site for CD's and Movies is needed, then make it a sister site, and don't expand this one into something else. We're all here for the video game aspect of the site. If we make CD's or Movies, it's just because its something that interests us. In the end, we're all here for video games.
I agree. The charm of VG is that the community is so small, so tight, so that you can make a name for yourself and be seen, instead of becoming like Deviantart, where you are just a number in a crowd, and any submission you make is lost in a flood of art within seconds. I don't mind the music covers or the DVD covers... It adds a bit of variety to the site. I also wouldn't mind seeing a special Hall for Movies and CDs. But I feel like expanding the site past its current base, to a generic design site, would only ruin the community aspect of the site, which is still its most appealing feature. We don't need more people... more people is half the problem we are having now, or at least new, trolling users. If you feel as though a sister site for CD's and Movies is needed, then make it a sister site, and don't expand this one into something else. We're all here for the video game aspect of the site. If we make CD's or Movies, it's just because its something that interests us. In the end, we're all here for video games.
that post is made even more epic by listening to the MGS2 tune! REP!
Not trying to be rude, but you kind of stole my idea.
Mmmkay. I just said my opinion and it happened to be the same as yours. I didn't read other posts than the first one.
Tucker1140
05-30-2009, 11:27 AM
Ideas:
Boxart world
Boxart plaza
World of Boxart
Ultimate Boxart
I don't know, just some ideas I thought of.
Eggboy'13
05-30-2009, 11:29 AM
VGboxart, that name, IMO, kind of makes us seem a little different form others, I really hate the idea of losing the fact that it's specificly VG, even if it is a little more than that, I still really don't want it to change.
Ideas:
Boxart world
Boxart plaza
World of Boxart
Ultimate Boxart
I don't know, just some ideas I thought of.
I WILL eat you sir...
Serious Egg is Serious.
Tucker1140
05-30-2009, 11:33 AM
VGboxart, that name, IMO, kind of makes us seem a little different form others, I really hate the idea of losing the fact that it's specificly VG, even if it is a little more than that, I still really don't want it to change. Agreed. I love the sound of VGBoxArt, like "I'm going on Ultimate boxart" or something doesn't sound neat, VGBoxArt does.
Drakxxx
05-30-2009, 12:10 PM
I think expanding on the variety of artworks VGBA excepts is a neat idea, but as other have said, I think it would be important to keep the emphasis on video game and DVD boxarts.
Maybe keep it as vgboxart, and bring attention to the idea that the site also accepts submissions in other areas of graphic design on the home page, or create a sister site as others have mentioned. I'd certainly join up.
Eggboy'13
05-30-2009, 12:12 PM
Ideas:
Boxart world
Boxart plaza
World of Boxart
Ultimate Boxart
I don't know, just some ideas I thought of.
Agreed. I love the sound of VGBoxArt, like "I'm going on Ultimate boxart" or something doesn't sound neat, VGBoxArt does.
You = my daily dose of WTF
Whoomp
05-30-2009, 12:19 PM
I think expanding on the variety of artworks VGBA excepts is a neat idea, but as other have said, I think it would be important to keep the emphasis on video game and DVD boxarts.
Maybe keep it as vgboxart, and bring attention to the idea that the site also accepts submissions in other areas of graphic design on the home page, or create a sister site as others have mentioned. I'd certainly join up.
I was thinking something like that as well, another site who have used a similar tactics is myanimelist (http://myanimelist.net/panel.php) whose clear goal is to list anime but also have the option to list manga, they show this by simple means which is just adding "with manga" besides the logo. Maybe something like that could be done here as well? That would not take much effort but still enlighten people to the possibility that you can post movie/cd and other kinds of boxart as well.
qwerty334
05-30-2009, 12:21 PM
Don't change the name; VGBA is too unique of a site.
The internet doesn't need another general design-hobbyist site, as there are already a lot of them (Behance, DeviantArt, GDF, AIGA)
I suggest that you just add some new sections like you did for "MOVIE" and "MUSIC", but now with "BOOK", "PRODUCT", "MAG", "POSTER", etc. The site will stay predominantly videogame boxarts, but with added sections for people who want to break the status quo.
RoarShark
05-30-2009, 12:25 PM
^That.
HalfSwiss
05-30-2009, 12:30 PM
CoverConnect or CoverConnection
I kinda of like it because you submit box art and you could also just call them covers, and you connect to a large community.
Just a thought.
The internet doesn't need another general design-hobbyist site, as there are already a lot of them (Behance, DeviantArt, GDF, AIGA)
That wouldn't be the idea, though. It would still have the narrow focus, which is boxes/covers.
I suggest that you just add some new sections like you did for "MOVIE" and "MUSIC", but now with "BOOK", "PRODUCT", "MAG", "POSTER", etc. The site will stay predominantly videogame boxarts, but with added sections for people who want to break the status quo.
This is actually pretty close to what I'm exploring right now. But with a significant nav UI revamp.
Ray2khax
05-30-2009, 12:39 PM
Yeah Also I think it's a bit time for a new vamp which you are saying, But maybe a better more attracting kinda website :)
Eggboy'13
05-30-2009, 01:00 PM
Some of these ideas sound real good, just don't change us from VGBA and I'll be happy! :)
TwilightMystics
05-30-2009, 01:54 PM
What about changing Video Game Box Arts to:
- Video Graphic Design Plaza
- Graphic Design Galore
- Grapes of Graphical Design
- Littlebigpackaging
Mikly
05-30-2009, 02:07 PM
- Littlebigpackaging
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/iloled-pam.jpg
Venom1
05-30-2009, 05:09 PM
"Ohana means family, family means nobody gets left behind. Or forgotten. "
Yeah.
yellowTail
05-30-2009, 05:15 PM
Some name ideas:
Designists
GraphicBoxarts
stevencho
05-30-2009, 05:16 PM
I think a sister site would either be a really good idea or a really bad idea.
It depends if any of the decent artists will go to the new site regularly. If it ends up just being occasionally visited by our users I think it will die out.
eat nade
05-30-2009, 05:39 PM
I think KoopaDasher said it best. I agree.
DeathSpawn11
05-30-2009, 05:47 PM
"Ohana means family, family means nobody gets left behind. Or forgotten. "
Yeah.
Mkay Lilo.
Sharing my thoughts, I think a sister site would be good if we wanted to focus this site on Video game box art only. But if we came to the point where we started making this more diverse media art, it would defeat the purpose of VideoGameBoxart.
coverworks.com anyone?
Eggboy'13
05-30-2009, 06:03 PM
"Ohana means family, family means nobody gets left behind. Or forgotten. "
Yeah.
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stevencho
05-30-2009, 06:04 PM
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Your point?
TheSlyder
05-30-2009, 06:05 PM
Not trying to be rude, but you kind of stole my idea.
That idea was floating around long before you joined, besides, expressing his opinion of liking that idea isn't the same as "stealing it."
I'm fine with a UI overhaul, but I don't like the idea of changing the name of the site. We've all grown to love VGboxart, and while other things are scattered here and there, the main focus is video games, and it will always be video games. As far as other types of covers, movies, books, posters, etc. other types of media don't really release very high resolution images or character images the way the video game industry does. While it's possible to make book or movie covers, it's going to always be far less common and easy just due to the shortage of material.
That point aside, though, there's nothing wrong with holding our name high and remembering our roots, even if we evolve past a video game cover site.
nothing94
05-30-2009, 10:08 PM
That idea was floating around long before you joined, besides, expressing his opinion of liking that idea isn't the same as "stealing it."
I'm fine with a UI overhaul, but I don't like the idea of changing the name of the site. We've all grown to love VGboxart, and while other things are scattered here and there, the main focus is video games, and it will always be video games. As far as other types of covers, movies, books, posters, etc. other types of media don't really release very high resolution images or character images the way the video game industry does. While it's possible to make book or movie covers, it's going to always be far less common and easy just due to the shortage of material.
That point aside, though, there's nothing wrong with holding our name high and remembering our roots, even if we evolve past a video game cover site.
Holy Shit. I dont believe it. What happened to me? I have to agree with Slyder O.o!!!
coolguy753
05-31-2009, 12:38 AM
I am against the idea overall. We have a section for dvds and music and have a misc section already. I do not want to see the community grow large that noone knows who's who anymore. It loses it's charm then and things don't mean so much anymore.
tleeart
05-31-2009, 12:44 AM
Don't change the name; VGBA is too unique of a site.
The internet doesn't need another general design-hobbyist site, as there are already a lot of them (Behance, DeviantArt, GDF, AIGA)
I suggest that you just add some new sections like you did for "MOVIE" and "MUSIC", but now with "BOOK", "PRODUCT", "MAG", "POSTER", etc. The site will stay predominantly videogame boxarts, but with added sections for people who want to break the status quo.
This, I think, is the best solution. That way, as qwerty mentioned, this stays predominantly VGBoxart, a place to make video game cover designs, but not restrain it to that alone.
Maybe have a little competition to come up with a new name for the website? And the prize could be.... I dunno..... Moderator powers for a day? ;)
Oh God no.
Just consider who could win.
billyman31
05-31-2009, 09:54 AM
Oh God no.
Just consider who could win.
what is Ranmakku won...
http://lfm.mit.edu/blog/drewhill/files/nuclear-explosion.jpg
alldreamsfalldown
05-31-2009, 10:07 AM
Keep it as VGBoxArt But it is: Very Good Box Art :)
Keep it as VGBoxArt But it is: Very Good Box Art :)
But it's a lie
It's more bad boxes than very good boxes :/
Silent Oblivion
05-31-2009, 11:50 AM
I don't care
Ninty
05-31-2009, 02:18 PM
Do Whatever!
It's your site :p
Plus I'd be fine with anything... :D
Spiderpig24
05-31-2009, 05:46 PM
It doesn't really matter to me if the site is changed to broaden the selection of boxes, since there is already movies and music. I would really like to see more, but I think it woud be a great idea to seperate the HoF's into catagories if you did change it.
Ayron
05-31-2009, 11:36 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Qwerty on this one.
The site has been functioning on vgboxarts, and to change the dominant aspect that this site holds is just plainout weird in my opinion.
Also,i have to add that the idea of masterworks being categorized seems like a good idea.
And for god's sake, make a Humor Masterworks reed ;)
Moogle
06-01-2009, 09:50 AM
I think we should expand to boxarts in general. I mean it doesnt really matter what you do, sense its your site and ill be happy with whatever, but I'd love for more people to be on this site and show their creativity, I think one of things I like about DA and such is that even though alot of work goes ignored, they bring alot of unique amazing artists.
Jbone
06-19-2009, 09:05 AM
Alright, I really want to say something on this subject.
I personally like typing VGboxart or VGBA since it's both likable and catchy. However, the only way to find a solution to this is to re-define what the site is now. As I see it, it is:
First and foremost: A graphic designer community
Secondly: a GAMERS community
We need to emphasize that first part in our name, because now our site is now graphic design about various topics, ranging from video games to books. Therefore, we need a more universal name than just Video Game box art. Something similar to "Cover Designers". Maybe not that exact name, but it does express something more universal with "covers" replacing "box arts". At the same time, we need to express the gaming community aspect. That brings the name checklist to three things:
1) Video game community
2) Graphic designer community
3) Cover community
Thoughts?
Alright, I really want to say something on this subject.
Thoughts?
I apologize, good sir, but I simply cannot take you seriously with that cross-eyed Mii-ripoff in your signature.
stevencho
06-19-2009, 09:24 AM
I apologize, good sir, but I simply cannot take you seriously with that cross-eyed Mii-ripoff in your signature.
However, he is playing Pokemon Diamond so I respect you.
Jbone
06-19-2009, 09:26 AM
@Geno I really don't see it as looking cross-eyed, some say so but I don't see it :confused:
@Stevencho - diamond is ballin'.
Hawt Es
06-20-2009, 05:09 PM
Well for what it's worth I like the way the site is now and would prefer that it be expanded from it's current state so it explores Video Games more.
I think it would be cool if the tournaments and battle section were some how integrated with the main site. I would like to see more official tournaments and battles happening each month. I would like to see people contributing resources rewarded. Perhaps users are given more control over their galleries.
Kind get what I'm saying? I think that this site could have a lot of cool features added to it so it. I would rather have the current site expanded on in features and options then in topic.
Just my thoughts.
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