Commenting etiquette

[Reed]

I'm getting really fed up with the attitude of some people, who apparently have an overinflated sense of self-worth, and comment on boxes with nothing but; "This is crap" or "Don't like it" or "It's bad".

This also applies to people who flat out say, "You need to do x, y and z". No, they don't need to do what you say. You can only suggest.

If you are not being helpful or constructive or supportive with your comment, then don't bother posting. If you do post this nonsense, then expect your comment to be deleted and/or find yourself banned.

To sum up; if you are not being a supportive member of the community, then you are not going to be welcome any longer.

Some things to remember:
1) You are not god's gift to Photoshop.
2) Even if you were, do you see folks like Marker being an ass? No, it's always nice and helpful. Do look into that. There may be something to it.
3) Comment on other people's boxes how you'd like them to comment on yours.

[super-mega-hyper-sonic]

Awww...It's nice to know you care,Reed!

[Ayron]

'' you are not god's gift to Photoshop ''
^Epic.

Anyways. i haven't considered myself to act as you've said, but i'll take it into account either way.

[Silent Oblivion]

While I agree with most of the points there, I dis-agree with the one about 'You need to do x, y and z". Saying they need to do it, doesn't necessarily mean that you are forcing them to do it, its just a way to say that 'to improve' they need to do this etc.

Anyway, I mostly agree.

[Ladykiller]

I get tired of seeing comments like "Good, but not your best." By itself, it's probably the most pointless comment that I see people post on boxes. C&C is key, not some vague statement that doesn't offer any advice to improve.

[TheSlyder]

I originally thought this was addressing rudeness in general, and telling all of the dick users to be more friendly, in which case I was going to say something like "You tell 'em, Reed! I get so sick of asshole users saying mean things!"

It would have been funny. You know, for the irony.

But since it's more about constructive posting than dickery, then I don't think I really have a rebuttal. Because I'm constructive in my assholery. Sometimes.

[Cerium]

I admit I use to be one of those people who wrote comments like "Omg this is shit" or "Its crap, you need to add this, that or the other" but I have changed alot since then and I always try my best to give constructive criticism comments rather than just criticism.

However I think you'll find the majority of people who leave comments like "Its bad" are newbies who recently joined the site. Maybe you should make it more clear somehow Reed that these comments are not acceptable. Just a lil suggestion.

[Reed]

While I agree with most of the points there, I dis-agree with the one about 'You need to do x, y and z". Saying they need to do it, doesn't necessarily mean that you are forcing them to do it, its just a way to say that 'to improve' they need to do this etc.
Well, yeah, you can't force them to do anything. The problem is that it gives off a holier-than-thou kind of attitude, and it's also confusing for newer members. "Oh, I need to have 3 screenshots on the back?"

[Silent Oblivion]

Well, yeah, you can't force them to do anything. The problem is that it gives off a holier-than-thou kind of attitude, and it's also confusing for newer members. "Oh, I need to have 3 screenshots on the back?"

I understand 100% where your coming from.

[Wushu]

Exactly my thoughts
+ Look at my sig xD

[xIAMHUNTERx]

This would be great if the site were for five-year-olds that couldn't handle criticism. The Internet is a serious place, Reed; you can't expect everyone to be all smiles all the time.

If someone posts a box that I think isn't up to their standards, then I'm going to tell them. And I'm not going to have any regrets about it. I don't bullshit people and I wouldn't expect people to bullshit me.

[Ladykiller]

If someone posts a box that I think isn't up to their standards, then I'm going to tell them. And I'm not going to have any regrets about it. I don't bullshit people and I wouldn't expect people to bullshit me.

The point is that it should still be constructive. Simply saying, "Sorry, this box isn't up to your standards." isn't helpful at all.

[KoopaDasher]

If someone posts a box that I think isn't up to their standards, then I'm going to tell them. And I'm not going to have any regrets about it. I don't bullshit people and I wouldn't expect people to bullshit me.

^This. I try to be as constructive as I can be, but I'm not going to sugar-coat it. If I see something that can be improved upon, I will mention it. If I happen to be blunt about it, it's because I see no reason to prance around the bushes in a fairy outfit just for appearances sake. It's the way I was treated when I came here, it's the way I treat people, and it works. It's harsh, but it gets the point across, and most of the time it gets results, if the artist really cares. However, I do tend to be more blunt and less nice about things the more that I feel that an artist doesn't give a rat's shat about whether or not they improve.

[E_G]

This also applies to people who flat out say, "You need to do x, y and z". No, they don't need to do what you say. You can only suggest.

To be honest this isn't that rude. The box does need that from their perspective/opinion, it can still be classified as a suggestion. It can be too repetitive to write it was your opinion, when this fact is usually already established before we read the post.

[shadysaiyan]

Is there going to be a report button for this?

I do agree though, i see this quite often and it usually leads me away from commenting on a box in general.

[sockeymeow]

lol there already is its right next to plus rep

[MF29]

lol there already is its right next to plus rep

I think he's referring to box comments.

[Gunslinger]

Some things to remember:
1) You are not god's gift to Photoshop.
I'm not? *removes from resume* ;)

I always find it a bit sad when people have to be told to act like a decent individual. It reminds me of a story that ran here in Philly a few months back. Basically a company hired a firm to educate their employees to be courteous to customers and to teach them to say 'thank you'.

[RoarShark]

This also applies to people who flat out say, "You need to do x, y and z". No, they don't need to do what you say. You can only suggest.



I think in some ways this can be helpful, but at the same time rude. But IMO when some one tells me that I view as To make this better try.... But some one might find it as Do this or else. But its usually IMO constructive.

[sockeymeow]

I'm not? *removes from resume* ;)
.

well clearly he was referring to everyone besides you

[roza]

This also applies to people who flat out say, "You need to do x, y and z". No, they don't need to do what you say. You can only suggest.




to be fair i like these comments on my boxes as they allow me to learn from past mistakes and improve, and also learn what to include to enhance my boxes audience

[TheSlyder]

Philly

http://www.se51.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fresh-prince_324x218.jpg

[MF29]

I hope that this also accounts for gratuitous insults.

[Lenny819]

Oh boy, this has probably got a lot to do with, "this is terrible" in Hellknight's Zelda wip thread.

I'm pretty flat out in wip threads, but if someone uploaded a terrible box I usually just ignore it.

[Gunslinger]

Thanks Slyder. Now i have the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme song stuck in my head. *shakes fist menacingly in your direction*

[GrahamZ]

yepp agree 100% with what reed says. i recently got a comment on my gears 2 box saying i dont like this. how is that helpful?

"in west Philadelphia born and raised, on the playground where i spent most of my days, something , when a couple of guys they were up to no good and started making trouble in my neibourhood i got in one little fight and my mam got scared " blah blah blah you get my point its in my heard too :)

[Tucker1140]

3) Comment on other people's boxes how you'd like them to comment on yours. I remember that from kindergarten. "Treat others as you like to be treated", but yes I must remember the rules, so must other members, as I have seen a lot of rude comments (I know I have too), but people must stop.

[Tecknee]

*shakes fist menacingly in your direction*

Haha, what? That's not even slightly clever.

[GrahamZ]

how about some weed? would you like some? ofcourse you would lets trade your alcohol for my weed?

[Radioactive Bob]

I pretty much agree with everything Reed was saying. Lately i have noticed a bit of an attitude coming from some members i previously had great respect for. While their opinions may be just, they don't have to treat other members as inferiors to them.

[Geno]

Meh, I've been somewhat remorseful about my recent subtle irritability, but I went and picked up some more pil-nostalgic games, so I'm okay now :).

[Venom1]

how about some weed? would you like some? ofcourse you would lets trade your alcohol for my weed?

Who are you talking to?

[Tucker1140]

Who are you talking to? He probably just smoked some, maybe.... himself?

[Venom1]

He probably just smoked some, maybe.... himself?

Most likely.

[Tecknee]

Who are you talking to?

I'm pretty sure he's talking to me.
In which case, I say sure.

[stevencho]

He probably just smoked some, maybe.... himself?

Nah... GrahamZ is an alcoholic.

[Gunslinger]

Haha, what? That's not even slightly clever.

It's a good thing then that it wasn't meant to be.

[Vengeance]

Now i have the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air theme song stuck in my head.

Now this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside-down
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel-Air...

*catchy beat*

[paper sonic]

I remember that from kindergarten.

you can remmber stuff from kindergarten well but for you it was like only 4 years ago?

[GrahamZ]

I'm pretty sure he's talking to me.
In which case, I say sure.

hell yeah ... waits for alcohol...


Nah... GrahamZ is an alcoholic.

hells yeah.

[spypilot]

ya hear that, chef?

[Tecknee]

Wat r u talken bout SlideR?

[Chef]

Do you hear that, Chef?
Yes, I do. My posts aren't breaking any of the rules. I'm sorry, it's breaking the rules to correct somebody because they type like a demented monkey.

[Ladykiller]

http://banditbud777.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/moderator.jpg

[stevencho]

http://banditbud777.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/moderator.jpg

No. ___

[Ladykiller]

No. ___

Hahaha

[AfterShock]

No. ___

I lol'd...so you can SHOVE IT. :p

[ELCrazy]

1) You are not god's gift to Photoshop.


-______-

And here I thought I was...

[E_G]

It's summertime, that's why so many kids are joining up, with submissions you don't like. As Reed meant, a bad contributor does not mean they are a troll. We would appreciate it if you take this rule into account and you shouldn't assume you should go against the rules because there is more boxes you don't like.

[Venom1]

http://banditbud777.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/moderator.jpg

Club Penguin? Really Al? Hahahahaha

[Ladykiller]

Club Penguin? Really Al? Hahahahaha

Uh...I just searched google images. Don't really know what "Club Penguin" is...

I'm surprise you know though, lulz. ;)

[Venom1]

Uh...I just searched google images. Don't really know what "Club Penguin" is...

I'm surprise you know though, lulz. ;)

Younger sibling duhh. :p

[Lenny819]

Club Penguin? Really Al? Hahahahaha

He probably found it on google. You seem to be the Club Penguin expert though.

[Venom1]

He probably found it on google. You seem to be the Club Penguin expert though.

Sorry joke was used 5 minutes ago.

[Lenny819]

Sorry joke was used 5 minutes ago.
Damn it, didn't even notice that. lol

[GrahamZ]

kills the blonde guy. No need to ban i shall we say made him sleep with the fishes.

[Ayron]

Seriously people?..i mean.. seriously?
Do not feed the troll. someone will soon take care of it.

[Avginon]

-_0 wowwe.